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CA20E to KA24DE upgrade
« on: Apr 29, 2004, 01:03PM »
Don't know if it's a stupid idea, but since there's no replacement for cubic displacement, is it a major problem to convert to a KA24DE from a FWD TRX into an R31 Pintara?

I know there's differences between CA20's in FWD and RWD, but it's just a thought.


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Re: CA20E to KA24DE upgrade
« Reply #1 on: Apr 29, 2004, 01:25PM »
you'd want to get a ka24de from something like a navara as they're already rwd.

in the fwd pintaras, the engine mounts for both the ka24e and the ca20e are exactly the same, so i guess you could assume the case would be the same for the rwd engine, but of course you can never be too sure.

a good thing about the ka24de is that it makes 115kw compared to the 96kw that the ka24e in the trx makes. they're also commonly turbo'd in america with loads of success so if you swapped the engine in there is loads of potential down the track for it.

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Re: CA20E to KA24DE upgrade
« Reply #2 on: Apr 29, 2004, 03:14PM »
what $$$are ya looking at for the ka24de?
apart from that, wat other conversions are good ideas
ca18det
sr20?
fj20?
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Re: CA20E to KA24DE upgrade
« Reply #3 on: Apr 29, 2004, 03:24PM »
not sure on price for a ka24de, you'd have to ring around, but if the mounts did match, then i think that it would be the best non turbo option available, other than that the ca18 would be your next best option. then there are the rb series of engines which you can swap in. i think the most difficult to swap in regards to custom work/mounts needing to be made would be the sr20 an fj20.

also remember that it is illegal to install an engine that is older than the car itself, so that might rule out the fj20 all together.

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Re: CA20E to KA24DE upgrade
« Reply #4 on: Apr 29, 2004, 03:35PM »
dam the fj's a sweet rig!!!
i might ring round bout the ka24de, its out of a navara was it?anymore info ill need, so they know what im on about?

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Re: CA20E to KA24DE upgrade
« Reply #5 on: Apr 29, 2004, 03:48PM »
For ease and pirce nothing beats the ca18de. pulls harder than ca20e. Plus there is soo much room for mods on them. The sr conversion would be interesting. dont know of any r31 pinnies wih sr20 engines in them

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Re: CA20E to KA24DE upgrade
« Reply #6 on: Apr 29, 2004, 03:52PM »
the 94 model navara  had the ka24e engine which was rated at 91kw

the 1998 navara still had the ka24e but rated at 93kw

the 99 model navara had the ka24de rated at 110kW @ 5600rpm and 208Nm @ 3600rpm

you could always up those power figues with cams and what not. but still pretty decent, shove a turbo on and your laughing :D


ca18de only does 93kW @ 6400rpm  and 156Nm @ 4800rpm a det is about 130kw and whatever torque, but then your insurance goes thru the roof.
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Re: CA20E to KA24DE upgrade
« Reply #7 on: Apr 29, 2004, 03:55PM »
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shove a turbo on and your laughing 
until u go for insurance.lol
do u rekon id need to change gearbox/clutch?
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Re: CA20E to KA24DE upgrade
« Reply #8 on: Apr 29, 2004, 03:58PM »
yeah i think you'd have to. only one way to find out really.

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Re: CA20E to KA24DE upgrade
« Reply #9 on: Apr 29, 2004, 03:58PM »
lets not forget the diff too. otherwise it will go bang

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Re: CA20E to KA24DE upgrade
« Reply #10 on: Apr 29, 2004, 04:00PM »
looks like im scraping that idea then. id be better off goin a ca18det so i can keep the original box. clutch, diff etc
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Re: CA20E to KA24DE upgrade
« Reply #11 on: Apr 29, 2004, 04:34PM »
well id say down the track change the gearbox cause im sure it coudl hack it just not for long

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Re: CA20E to KA24DE upgrade
« Reply #12 on: Apr 29, 2004, 04:41PM »
according to noss, people put the pintara gearbox in exa's cuz they are a little sronger?
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Re: CA20E to KA24DE upgrade
« Reply #13 on: Apr 29, 2004, 04:43PM »
yes true but still doesnt mean the pinny gearbox can handle a sr20det for a long time. U can easily get it strengthened though. ive had my gear box strengthened because i blew so many last year. Worth the few extra $$$

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Re: CA20E to KA24DE upgrade
« Reply #14 on: Apr 29, 2004, 04:49PM »
yes true but still doesnt mean the pinny gearbox can handle a sr20det for a long time. U can easily get it strengthened though. ive had my gear box strengthened because i blew so many last year. Worth the few extra $$$
we are talking ca18det not sr20det?
wat u mean by strengthened? wat do they do?
approx how much too?
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Re: CA20E to KA24DE upgrade
« Reply #15 on: Apr 29, 2004, 04:51PM »
well i got my gearbox done for 650 stengthened. From memory its just bigger cogs and others. dont really know but i dont drive any differant and this gearboxe has lasted 7 months (thats good for me). Last yr i did three stock gearboxes

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Re: CA20E to KA24DE upgrade
« Reply #16 on: Apr 29, 2004, 04:55PM »
650, thats alright considering how much will be spent on the conversion
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Re: CA20E to KA24DE upgrade
« Reply #17 on: Apr 29, 2004, 04:58PM »
i dont htink i ever said the ca20 boxes are stonger. but apparently the ca20e fwd boxes are the same as vg30de maxima boxes.

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Re: CA20E to KA24DE upgrade
« Reply #18 on: Apr 29, 2004, 05:04PM »
my bad, it was aussie gli
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Re: CA20E to KA24DE upgrade
« Reply #19 on: Apr 30, 2004, 11:08AM »
They CA20E boxes are built to handle the maxima's vq30de as well as the CA20E in pinny's, so they are reasonably strong.
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Re: CA20E to KA24DE upgrade
« Reply #20 on: May 1, 2004, 11:06PM »
i dont htink i ever said the ca20 boxes are stonger. but apparently the ca20e fwd boxes are the same as vg30de maxima boxes.

vg30e and vg20et u11's and u12's had the same box as the ca20
not sure if they came on the vg30de but it will definatley fit
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