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Seam welding.
« on: Nov 14, 2013, 08:57AM »
Seam welding the engine cross member. Pros and cons ?

Virtually it's going to be far stronger then a factory cross member, but is it worth the money !

Fabulous fabrications do a $250 core exchange for the R chasis and since the cross member goes left to right and not up and down like the u12 I would imagine flex also being minimized and thus resulting in a tighter front end, less body roll, more grip as suspension components are getting utilized more etc ?

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Re: Seam welding.
« Reply #1 on: Nov 14, 2013, 04:19PM »
it would stiffen things up i imagine, but is it the wisest choice? i'm not too sure.

what other components are you going to put stress on by seam welding the cross member?

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Re: Seam welding.
« Reply #2 on: Nov 15, 2013, 06:44AM »
Seam welding the engine cross member. Pros and cons ?

Pros:

*insert crickets here*

Cons:
- Waste of money. If it's not broken, don't fix it.
- Won't achieve anything. What you think it will achieve will be all in your head.

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Virtually it's going to be far stronger then a factory cross member, but is it worth the money !

If you aren't pushing 600+Nm, why bother? Again, unless the factory one is damaged and NEEDS repair, no point.

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Fabulous fabrications do a $250 core exchange for the R chasis

Smart cookies. Charging people for a service that has little to no effect.

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and since the cross member goes left to right and not up and down like the u12 I would imagine flex also being minimized and thus resulting in a tighter front end, less body roll, more grip as suspension components are getting utilized more etc ?

Either:
a) put that $250 toward chassis braces, or
b) put it toward a weld in cage.

To put it simply, unless the cross member is a load bearing component of the front suspension (ie lower control arms mount to it), and by design, it is inherently lacking stiffness, reinforcing / seam welding won't produce any benefit except an exercise in wasting your time and money.

You're welcome. lol.

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Re: Seam welding.
« Reply #3 on: Nov 15, 2013, 07:39AM »
Pros:

*insert crickets here*

Cons:
- Waste of money. If it's not broken, don't fix it.
- Won't achieve anything. What you think it will achieve will be all in your head.

If you aren't pushing 600+Nm, why bother? Again, unless the factory one is damaged and NEEDS repair, no point.

Smart cookies. Charging people for a service that has little to no effect.

Either:
a) put that $250 toward chassis braces, or
b) put it toward a weld in cage.

To put it simply, unless the cross member is a load bearing component of the front suspension (ie lower control arms mount to it), and by design, it is inherently lacking stiffness, reinforcing / seam welding won't produce any benefit except an exercise in wasting your time and money.

You're welcome. lol.

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Re: Seam welding.
« Reply #4 on: Nov 15, 2013, 09:23AM »
lol nice work adam. i wrote a similar response and then deleted it. i knew you'd come in and clear things up :P

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Re: Seam welding.
« Reply #5 on: Nov 15, 2013, 10:15AM »
lol nice work adam. i wrote a similar response and then deleted it. i knew you'd come in and clear things up :P

Not butt hurt at all. It's responses like that that we need everywhere.
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Re: Seam welding.
« Reply #6 on: Nov 17, 2013, 05:07PM »
Not butt hurt at all. It's responses like that that we need everywhere.

nah didn't think you'd be butthurt lol. i rambled a bit, gave examples of where i've seen and heard it done and said it probably wasn't a good idea and in the end i thought that i'm probably just confusing it all and high chance adam will come and tell you what its all about. either that or i'd re-think my response and cut it down to the point.

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