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Gearbox
« on: Aug 21, 2002, 07:46PM »
I actually have a technical question! Omg! Hehe.

Okay, I'm thinking about doing a manaul conversion. (a) Is there a certain type of gearbox I have to get? (b) How much am I looking at round about for a gearbox? (c) Will it bolt straight on to my motor? (d) How long am I looking at for my car being off the road?

Could anyone please help me out here.  Sick of driving an auto and not being able to control the rpm's myself :-/

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Re: Gearbox
« Reply #1 on: Aug 22, 2002, 07:13AM »
get the manual for the ca20e... it will bolt right in, and you'll probably be without your car for a day or two..

if pricing is anyhting similar to the ka24e gearbox, expect to pay $2500 for a reco'd unit.

for that price, i'd buy an sr20de or even the sr20det would be cheaper. (but then u gotta pay for the install)
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Re: Gearbox
« Reply #2 on: Aug 22, 2002, 07:46AM »
You serious!!!  Holy shite!!!!  What ever happened to paying $800 for a really good gearbox?  Did I skip a few lifetimes?

Nah 91nismo.  To be honest, I don't want the SR20DET.  If it was a rear wheel drive it would have been okay.  I'd just stick to a performance rebuild.  Will work out the same, maybe a little bit more expensive.  But I'd stick with that.

I dunno.
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Re: Gearbox
« Reply #3 on: Oct 24, 2002, 07:50AM »
so it will cost around $2500 for reconditioned manual gear box?......hmmm should have done that instead of fixing the auto($2000) ........oh well maybe in a few years when it dies again! hhee ;D
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Re: Gearbox
« Reply #4 on: Oct 29, 2002, 01:11AM »
well, its about $1500 for a manual box for the ka24e. but that is 2nd hand, from the wrecker, sold as is. so if it fucks up, its your loss.

i thought i'd save the $1000 and take a chance on the 2nd hand box from the wrecker. i drove to brisbane a week later, and by the time i got there, there was no oil left in the box. so i took it to my mechanic up there and it cost me another $1200 to get the box reco'd. so i should've just spent the ectra $1000 in the first place, as i would of saved myself $200. i also missed a week and a half of work waiting for the parts to come in for the reco, so i lost that week & a half in wages too.

otherwise, if you can wait 28 days, a brand new gearbox can be purchased from japan & installed for the same $2500 that you can get the reco box supplied & fitted for. i needed my car by the end of the week, so i couldnt wait for the new box to come from japan, as it was close to christmas (end of november) and i was told that, because of the holidays the box wouldnt get to melbourne until the first week in february.

oh, and nizgirl... i just realised that you could probably pick up a gearbox for you're ca20e for around the $800-1000 mark, as you dont have an lsd. a non-lsd ka24e gearbox can be picked up for about $800-1200 depending where you go.
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Re: Gearbox
« Reply #5 on: Oct 30, 2002, 09:29AM »
My bearings were stuffed so I ended up getting a new g/b for the CA20E a few months ago.  

A reco 5 speed manual was gonna cost $700 or a second hand 100,000K g/b was gonna cost $550... I ended up getting a brand spanking new gearbox thru Nissbits in Ringwood for $1000.  TRX gearbox's have LSD so cost a shiteload more...

should be able to do the conversion with a reco box for about $1500 I should think.

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get the manual for the ca20e... it will bolt right in, and you'll probably be without your car for a day or two..

if pricing is anyhting similar to the ka24e gearbox, expect to pay $2500 for a reco'd unit.

for that price, i'd buy an sr20de or even the sr20det would be cheaper. (but then u gotta pay for the install)

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Re: Gearbox
« Reply #6 on: Nov 12, 2002, 11:13PM »
Has anyone got any idea how much the LSD diff centre from a TRX box is worth?
I wonder if it comes in close to a brand new one way KaaZ clutch LSD.....
I only ask as the KaaZ Australian distributor is about a 5min drive from where i am.
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Re: Gearbox
« Reply #7 on: Nov 13, 2002, 03:24AM »
Ok. My car has had a diff whine since I bought it (3 years ago). It has been getting progressively louder over time. What does this mean?
1) Some time soon the gearbox will fail. If so, what will happen...will I have no gears? and will the whole gear box need replacing or reco-ing?
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2) It will just get louder. If so, am I losing performance?
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Re: Gearbox
« Reply #8 on: Nov 13, 2002, 07:00AM »
The gearbox oil has been checked/changed on a regular basis? I'm guessing that the gears are wearing in such a way causing the offending whine, or your bearings in the box are slowly on their way out.
If it's due to excessive gear wear in the diff, you'll most likely lose drive all of a sudden.
You won't loose performance, but i'd find the increasing whining unnerving.....
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Re: Gearbox
« Reply #9 on: Nov 13, 2002, 09:01AM »
That's what I had, was progressivly getting louder, even with tranny oil changes every 20,000ks.  Turned out to be my bearings in the gearbox.  I started to get a slight vibration/shudder when accelerating in gear, then the synchro in first gear died... Dunno if that was because of the bearings, or just wear.  The gearbox was original and the car's done 260,000ks, so it's a fair effort I reckon.

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Ok. My car has had a diff whine since I bought it (3 years ago). It has been getting progressively louder over time. What does this mean?
1) Some time soon the gearbox will fail. If so, what will happen...will I have no gears? and will the whole gear box need replacing or reco-ing?
or
2) It will just get louder. If so, am I losing performance?

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Re: Gearbox
« Reply #10 on: Nov 14, 2002, 04:14AM »

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so i took it to my mechanic up there and it cost me another $1200 to get the box reco'd. .

So, I could get my gearbox reco'd for approximately $1200 now while its on its way out, before it dies and does major damage?
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Re: Gearbox
« Reply #11 on: Nov 14, 2002, 09:49PM »
I hear ya about the autos crazy, I used to drive a Bluebird AUTO WAGON!!!  ::) There's heaps of work converting auto to manual tho.
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Re: Gearbox
« Reply #12 on: Nov 14, 2002, 10:17PM »
I did my gearbox bearings about 12 months ago.  I decided to replace them rather than the whole gearbox, and it was like I was driving a brand new car.  Even if it only last a couple of years, the money saved on buying a new gearbox is more than worth it.
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Re: Gearbox
« Reply #13 on: Nov 15, 2002, 11:50AM »
You will require:
1 Gearbox = $800-1000
1 Conversion kit = $500

The conversion kit can be had from a wreckers, and includes a new pedal box, master and slave hydraulic cylinders, and all the other little bitties that are required to drive the hydraulics. This is assuming the Pintara uses a pedal box, and im not sure if it does. If it doesnt, you will need to drill holes to mount the clutch pedal.. Also the part of your management system that deals with the auto box may have a hissy fit if it is just disconnected.
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Re: Gearbox
« Reply #14 on: Nov 15, 2002, 12:00PM »
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I did my gearbox bearings about 12 months ago.  I decided to replace them rather than the whole gearbox, and it was like I was driving a brand new car.  Even if it only last a couple of years, the money saved on buying a new gearbox is more than worth it.


How much did that cost to get done? Sounds like a good option since I may not have pintara or maybe this engine for many more years.

Also, some info on your magna shaun....colour etc cos I've seen a few different 'sick' magnas with big wheels in Eltham/Diamo the last few days
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Re: Gearbox
« Reply #15 on: Nov 15, 2002, 08:06PM »
1st question - I can't remember what it cost for me to get the bearings done, I'll have to have a look at the bill for my mechanic.

2nd question - The Magna hasn't been on the road in the last week (Flat tyre - no spare - to lazy to go get it fixed).  Anyway, the colour is pewter (silver), no big wings and bodykits, and it sits on 17 inch ROH Adrenalins.  A few performance mods, exhaust, filter, etc.  Nothing too special, but if need be it can show those Commo and Falcon drivers the door. (Not the new BA though, I can't compete with 180kW straight from the factory)

Anyway, the Magna will be leaving me shortly and I'll be getting another one.  The next one will only be a 3.0, which is a stronger engine than the 3.5 I've got, which is because of some serious upgrades.  I'm either going with a RPW supercharger, or twin turbo set up.  Either way if I don't get at least 200kW I won't be happy. >:(
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