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Kyb shockers around are in !
« on: Sep 23, 2003, 03:10PM »
i got installed KYB front and rear shockers with peders ultra low spings , ther craziii just 1 prob is that they are really hard like every bump u can feel so yea any qestions u wana knoe about em feeel free to ask :)

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Re:Kyb shockers around are in !
« Reply #1 on: Sep 23, 2003, 04:05PM »
wats the handling like Sammyj??


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Re:Kyb shockers around are in !
« Reply #2 on: Sep 23, 2003, 09:16PM »
how low is ultra low? got any pics?

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« Reply #3 on: Sep 24, 2003, 12:21AM »
ahhhh handling well its good u can turn corners hard but ther is still heaps of body roal, i gona wait till i get the whiteline swaybars but in 20mm ones at back n 18 at front i think , n then judge it but its goot but its such a hard right everyhting is falling apart, n also the car was low as but now i duno its jumped up heaps gona get my springs reset.

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Re:Kyb shockers around are in !
« Reply #4 on: Sep 24, 2003, 12:39AM »
Body Roll??

When i got mine in Sammy, i said goodbye to all body roll, i guess that might be the difference between lows and superlows!!
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Re:Kyb shockers around are in !
« Reply #5 on: Sep 24, 2003, 01:39PM »
i guess u dun turn as hard as i do. hehehehe

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Re:Kyb shockers around are in !
« Reply #6 on: Sep 24, 2003, 05:24PM »
handling will be worse on superlows than on lows.. its a trade off between looks an handling.

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Re:Kyb shockers around are in !
« Reply #7 on: Sep 24, 2003, 06:06PM »
i guess u dun turn as hard as i do. hehehehe
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Re:Kyb shockers around are in !
« Reply #8 on: Sep 25, 2003, 02:06AM »
today i put em to the test 180 on freeway nooooo jumping around its craziiii but at low km/h it just jumpes but wen u are speeding n going sik it just hugs the road  and jus flys over bumps n also i  went over this sotra hill were it went up then i went airborn then landed scraped the front but all good in a stirhgt like sooo i am happy :)

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Re:Kyb shockers around are in !
« Reply #9 on: Sep 25, 2003, 08:36AM »
today i put em to the test 180 on freeway nooooo jumping around its craziiii but at low km/h it just jumpes but wen u are speeding n going sik it just hugs the road  and jus flys over bumps n also i  went over this sotra hill were it went up then i went airborn then landed scraped the front but all good in a stirhgt like sooo i am happy :)

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Re:Kyb shockers around are in !
« Reply #10 on: Sep 25, 2003, 08:37AM »
handling will be worse on superlows than on lows.. its a trade off between looks an handling.

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Re:Kyb shockers around are in !
« Reply #11 on: Oct 3, 2003, 02:52PM »
Hey Sammy did you get your KYB's installed at a workshop or did you install them yourself?

If you got them installed for you where did you get it done at? I'll need a phone number at least.

And if you done them yourself i'll need to talk to you.

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Re:Kyb shockers around are in !
« Reply #12 on: Oct 4, 2003, 02:50AM »
i got them installed for 55 bux for the front and 55 bux for the back at tyrepower in sunshine they did crazii job , i watched them as they did it , wasnt that hard .. wat u wana knoe feeel free to ask :)

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Re:Kyb shockers around are in !
« Reply #13 on: Oct 6, 2003, 12:57AM »
How'd they fit the rear shockies in as i got a set and the locking rings that i got supplied are too small to screw in did they use the original locking rings or what?
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Re:Kyb shockers around are in !
« Reply #14 on: Oct 6, 2003, 02:22AM »
hahah yea myne had that same problem use the old locking nut but u gota take the rubber off it , but of mucking around but worth it ,  its gona b stiff as once u get em in !!

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Re:Kyb shockers around are in !
« Reply #15 on: Oct 6, 2003, 03:34PM »
excellent thanks sammy
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Re:Kyb shockers around are in !
« Reply #16 on: Oct 6, 2003, 08:25PM »
np g how much did u pay for em ??

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Re:Kyb shockers around are in !
« Reply #17 on: Oct 7, 2003, 12:41AM »
i got the rears for $260 for the pair
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Re:Kyb shockers around are in !
« Reply #18 on: Oct 7, 2003, 02:09AM »
The shock has to take more load through a longer movement because the springs are lower, the KYB is designed for lows not super lows.  Therefor it takes longer for the shock to take impact thus increasing body roll due to its lag time.

That prbably doesnt make sense but i understand it, lol.
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Re:Kyb shockers around are in !
« Reply #19 on: Oct 7, 2003, 12:12PM »
i got freinds at bursons and paid 190 for front kyb's and 140 for rear , :)

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Re:Kyb shockers around are in !
« Reply #20 on: Oct 8, 2003, 09:05PM »
hey sammy,

do u have any pics of ur car?? id like to see some pics of a silver trx lowered... thanks 8)

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Re:Kyb shockers around are in !
« Reply #22 on: Oct 26, 2003, 12:57AM »
I know its abit late but do u by any chance have the part numbers? cos i live in sydney and was wodering where i could get them from.

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Re:Kyb shockers around are in !
« Reply #23 on: Oct 26, 2003, 01:39AM »
errrr i cheack 2morow bro :)

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Re: Kyb shockers around are in !
« Reply #24 on: Jan 14, 2004, 01:11PM »
I've got a quote for KYBs at $450 for the set (front and rear), and as far as I see it, that's a pretty good deal.  They want $220 for installation <bleh> so I want to know, particularly from weasel whether they can be installed easily or not.  Did that problem with the rear locking nut cause you much hassles?

Also, just making sure here, I shouldn't have any problems with these shocks if I fit low King Springs, should I?
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Re: Kyb shockers around are in !
« Reply #25 on: Jan 14, 2004, 01:49PM »
The fronts are easy to do not sure about doing the shocks in the rear getting them off the car to change the springs was abit of a secne though

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Re: Kyb shockers around are in !
« Reply #26 on: Jan 14, 2004, 01:54PM »
Also, just making sure here, I shouldn't have any problems with these shocks if I fit low King Springs, should I?

You'd have no problems at all... other than an overwhelming urge to enter corners twice and fast (just ask aussie-gli... or drive behind him on some very curvy roads ;D).
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Re: Kyb shockers around are in !
« Reply #27 on: Jan 14, 2004, 03:28PM »
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I've got a quote for KYBs at $450 for the set (front and rear), and as far as I see it, that's a pretty good deal.  They want $220 for installation <bleh> so I want to know, particularly from weasel whether they can be installed easily or not.  Did that problem with the rear locking nut cause you much hassles?

they caused me a shit load of hassles and i haven't even done it yet (lazyness, clutch just gone, lazyness)

BUT i don't have my original locking rings (i threw them out when i got my monroes put in)

I have been told that if you do have the original locking rings then it's no problem you just need to take out the rubber inserts and they will fit.
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Re: Kyb shockers around are in !
« Reply #28 on: Jan 14, 2004, 08:48PM »
thats true the locking rings at the back that come with the kyb dont fit on the car u have to use the original ones so they all fit well , i paid 190 for front and 140 for back so that is 330 for all shockers so i think 450 is alot bro !!

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Re: Kyb shockers around are in !
« Reply #29 on: Jan 14, 2004, 09:54PM »
$450 is quite a decent price sammy, just remember not everyone knows someone else like alot of ppl on here seem to.

to me $450 is quite good being that i got the rear for $260 so if the don't front come in at less than $190 (which i can't see happening) you've scored yourself a better deal than me
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Re: Kyb shockers around are in !
« Reply #30 on: Jan 14, 2004, 10:21PM »
What part exactly are the locking rings?  I'm not sure if my originals would still be on there - don't know the history of the car except for when I've owned it.  Is it something that would be hard to find a substitute for?
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Re: Kyb shockers around are in !
« Reply #31 on: Jan 14, 2004, 10:33PM »
The locking ring is the octagonal shaped part that the piston for the shockie comes out of, it sits inside the springs themselves but up about 1-2inches.

if you undo these you can pull out your shockie (watch out for the oil and shit from the cylinder)

they aren't very hard to find just reasonably expensive cause the wreckers cannot sell the complete shockie if they've been removed so they'll either want you to buy the shockies or pay enough for the shockies and only get those parts.

when i say reasonably expensive i mean the cheapest quote i got on them was $80 for the two (another reason why mine aren't in yet). also they are not listed on any parts catalogue so no aftermarket parts and nissan don't even stock them, again you'd need to but the whole shockie off nissan
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Re: Kyb shockers around are in !
« Reply #32 on: Jan 15, 2004, 09:35AM »
 i mean bargan with the guy say somewere else gave u a beter qoute

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Re: Kyb shockers around are in !
« Reply #33 on: Jan 16, 2004, 07:39AM »

BUT i don't have my original locking rings (i threw them out when i got my monroes put in)

I have been told that if you do have the original locking rings then it's no problem you just need to take out the rubber inserts and they will fit.

I'm still unsure whether I want to take the risk that I'll have troubles installing them - you say you don't have your originals, weasel, but why aren't you able to use the ones from the munroes?  ie, will I be able to use whatever locking rings that are on my car now, even if they aren't originals?
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Re: Kyb shockers around are in !
« Reply #34 on: Jan 17, 2004, 03:13PM »
the ones supplied with the monroes are a different size i.e.

lets say the kyb shockie is 65mm across                                  please note sizes
the monroe shockie is 85mm across                                        are only examples

the ring that comes with the kyb's sit's around the shockie perfectly holding it quite snugly but it is therefore too small to screw into the housing to 'lock' the shockie in place

the ring that comes with the monroe will screw into the housing perfectly and does it's job with the monroes perfectly aswell but due to the larger internal diameter the kyb shockie moves about inside it (not a good thing when doing your suspension)

the stock rings apparently when you remove the rubber seals and stuff from the inside of them should be the right size to hold the kyb shockie but the out side will still be big enough to screw into place in the housing i.e. they have thicker walls on the locking ring

i know this is really hard to understand without ever seeing a locking ring but thats the best and easiest way i could think of describing it.

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Re: Kyb shockers around are in !
« Reply #35 on: Jan 17, 2004, 11:52PM »
I think I understand, your explanation was clear enough :)  I'm pretty sure I'd rather not have to be concerned with this if it does become an issue for me.  So, how does KYBs for the front and Munroes for the rear sound?  Do you think there'd be any strangeness in the handling etc from having 2 different types of shocks equipped?
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Re: Kyb shockers around are in !
« Reply #36 on: Jan 18, 2004, 12:00AM »
u can do that bro , i got kyb all around n i am happy wif em i been in my cusson who has monroes in his corsair n his seem harder so sounds good !

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Re: Kyb shockers around are in !
« Reply #37 on: Jan 18, 2004, 12:43AM »
i think its Flogtara that actually has that exact setup (kyb front, monroe rear) and from all that i've heard he's very happy with them

but yeah if your not sure about it and don't want to risk it then play it safe and go something that will do the trick nice and easy (wish i'd looked into it a bit more :P)
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Re: Kyb shockers around are in !
« Reply #38 on: Jan 19, 2004, 08:14PM »
Well, I was just checking out my incredibly bald rear tyres :-[ and I glanced at the shock and what do you think I noticed?  The locking ring!  Of course, I still have no idea whether it's the original, but now I know what it is and where it goes, at least! 

I take it, from looking at things, that the width of the rod is the issue.  Weasel, or sammyj, or anyone, if you in fact have the KYB's handy, could you give me a measurement on the width of the KYB rods?  That way, I can check how big the difference in size is, and if it's mere millimetres, I can probably safely assume that I have original locking rings, or at least that my current ones can be modified to work!  Yay!  ;D
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Re: Kyb shockers around are in !
« Reply #39 on: Jan 19, 2004, 09:03PM »
ahh how am i gona measure em if they are in the car and parscle shelf is on n ye,,, sorry bro

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« Reply #40 on: Jan 19, 2004, 09:11PM »
Well, I didn't want you to feel left out, so I thought I'd include you too :)
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Re: Kyb shockers around are in !
« Reply #41 on: Jan 19, 2004, 11:45PM »
bro , if u got standard shockers all u do is , get the kyb put it in the shocker place because they are inserts , then u get the old locking ring off the standard monroes , u take off the rubber that is around it and put it arround the kyb shocker , then u tighten it and bang all ready to go , trust me i did it myself n i aint no shock absorba shop but only thing is u gota watch out for the spring if they are standard they gona spring back in your face :)

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« Reply #42 on: Jan 20, 2004, 01:38AM »
Ah but the thing is sammy I can't be 100% sure that the locking rings on my car are the originals, that is, the suspension may have been changed in it's lifetime.  It's probably unlikely, as the suspension units do look pretty farking old, but I'd like to be sure in any case.
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Re: Kyb shockers around are in !
« Reply #43 on: Jan 20, 2004, 02:29PM »
Narxysus i just got the locking ring supplied with the kyb and measured the hole where the piston comes through is approx 20mm
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« Reply #44 on: Jan 20, 2004, 02:44PM »
Thanks weasel - I'll go check that soon!

Just checked that - the width of the rod on my current shocks is pretty much right on 20mm, so I guess that means KYBs are the go!
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« Reply #45 on: Jan 21, 2004, 04:35PM »
....or maybe not.  I emailed the dealer who had given me a quote for the KYB's asking how soon I could get them, and he replies "Sorry, but they don't make them for the rear anymore."  <sigh> I KNOW, dipshit! <sigh>  Seems to me he just looked in the little suspension guide book they have, and didn't bother ringing KYB up.  So, fuck it, I'll just get Munroe's all around an save my time and money.  Most people seem to just get munroe's anyway, so, meh, I'll just be another face in the crowd.
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Re: Kyb shockers around are in !
« Reply #46 on: Jan 22, 2004, 12:22AM »
they do make em i got them in my car !

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Re: Kyb shockers around are in !
« Reply #47 on: Jan 22, 2004, 08:28AM »
It seems to me sammy that they may have put a similar shock for a different car in yours, hence the reason why they had to use original locking nuts and not the ones that came with the kybs.
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Re: Kyb shockers around are in !
« Reply #48 on: Jan 22, 2004, 09:49AM »
naa mate
i went and got them myself from bursons in brunswickl i go to the guy i want kyb for u12 pintara he called up ordered them n piked them up next day went to tyrepower in sunshine and installed them for 55 bux so yea :)_

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Re: Kyb shockers around are in !
« Reply #49 on: Jan 22, 2004, 05:52PM »
well the shockies i got the guy rang up and ordered them and he "told me" that they were for the U12 but whether he was telling the truth or not is another story (although this bloke seemed like he knew what he was on about)

also i emailed KYB about the shockies i bought and about how they didn't fit and they emailed mne back saying that they have sold those shockies (same serial number and all) to plenty of people and they haven't had any trouble, but like they actually checked my problem out for real, they would've just got my email and given me a generic reply.

in that email i also pointed out the fact that on their website they never listed any rear shockies for the U12, but got no reply to that part.

But Narxysus if you want to save the hassle go the monroe's they are a direct swap over. just one thing though

can i buy your original locking rings off you :D :D :D :D

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