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U12 Bluebird, Pintara & Stanza => maintenance issues => Topic started by: SSS on Sep 25, 2003, 01:14PM

Title: Distributor cap and rotor button
Post by: SSS on Sep 25, 2003, 01:14PM
EDIT: Apparently nissan do supply OEM rotor buttons and distributor caps, i've ordered mine and will find out tomorrow if they are the right ones.
Title: Re:Distributor cap and rotor button
Post by: noss on Sep 25, 2003, 06:51PM
bloody dickheads. when i spoke to them they said that the only way i could get the rotor button was to buy the entire distributor for $980!

oh well.. i got the correct rotor button from sydney.
Title: Re:Distributor cap and rotor button
Post by: SSS on Sep 25, 2003, 07:04PM
I was under the same impression.....i'll find out in the morning.
The guy i deal with at FTG nissan knows i only order parts for the KA, so he couldn't have mixed it up with any other part...i hope.
Title: Re:Distributor cap and rotor button
Post by: SSS on Sep 26, 2003, 01:21PM
Ok, genuine from nissan the rotor head (or button as it's more commonly known) is $25.75 and it's part no. is 22157-54CO1, distributor cap is $30.75 and it's part no. is 22162-30ROO.
These items only need to be inspected every 20,000km (if i remember correctly) and only need to be replaced if cracking occurs in the cap. I would replace both of these at the same time, and every 50,000-100,000kms.
I think its cured my slight misfire at idle.
Title: Re:Distributor cap and rotor button
Post by: SaMmYJ on Oct 5, 2003, 02:02AM
wats the roter head do  ? how can u tell if its fuqed ??
Title: Re:Distributor cap and rotor button
Post by: FLOGTARA on Oct 7, 2003, 02:25AM
makes the plugs go bang!
Title: Re:Distributor cap and rotor button
Post by: SSS on Oct 7, 2003, 11:17AM
the rotor button, like flogtara said, fires the plugs by rotating at camshaft speed and touches the metal contacts in the distributor cap.
i'll post a pic of my old rotor button cos that was stuffed.
Title: Re:Distributor cap and rotor button
Post by: MR.TRX on Nov 1, 2003, 11:01PM
rotor button and dizzy cap i have them  availible for people who want them
Title: Re:Distributor cap and rotor button
Post by: SSS on Nov 2, 2003, 03:43PM
thanks mr. trx..... tell me AFTER i've bought them at dealership prices  ::) ;D
For those who want to replace them, how much are you selling them for?
Title: Re:Distributor cap and rotor button
Post by: MR.TRX on Nov 9, 2003, 11:39PM
sorry about that

i get them for     dizzy cap $27.00
                       rotor button $17.50
Title: Re: Distributor cap and rotor button
Post by: Barnett on Jan 20, 2004, 03:02PM
my mate got charged like $50 for a dizzy cap for a 8 spark ca20 :S.

[Barnett]
Title: Re: Distributor cap and rotor button
Post by: Cle on Apr 10, 2004, 02:32PM
There worth more you dope :p. Ca20 & the KA24 are verry diffrent engines, i got my rotor for $42 and i doubt you'd find it cheaper then 35 anywhere bar at mate rates. My dizzy was only $15.50 though.
Title: Re: Distributor cap and rotor button
Post by: FLOGTARA on Apr 12, 2004, 10:09AM
Ultratune tried to sell me a new rotor button and distributor cap for $185.00  I said nup ill do it myself.  They also said they'd put new leads on for $160.00 I also told them to "eat a dick"

I'll be doing some shopping before i buy my new ones.  I need new 1's soon and probably get it all done with the new mods coming, but god twin spark hits u in the back pocket a bit mroe than single!
Title: Re:Distributor cap and rotor button
Post by: Jtas on Apr 15, 2004, 06:23PM
i'll post a pic of my old rotor button cos that was stuffed.

does mine look stuffed to you? it didnt look like this a month ago...
the tip used to be mostly white, now its unevenly grey and rust coloured:
(poor photo which makes it hard to tell)

go here:
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4287153233&congratulation_page=Y
Title: Re: Distributor cap and rotor button
Post by: Jtas on Apr 23, 2004, 02:41AM
ive replaced my rotor button and its not missing at idle now.  but i was told the reason for the old one burning up was because of dodgy leads, which makes sense because i dont think mine have ever been replaced... they have now :)
Title: Re: Distributor cap and rotor button
Post by: mitza on May 3, 2004, 12:21PM
On the topic of Dizzy Caps....Between it and the engine, there is a very thin rubber seal, or washers that sits neatly in there. Mine is cracked and oil is slowly, and in very small amounts dripping out. Anyone know where I can pick another one of these up from??? Just the washer that is? Cause I got a new cap, and it didnt have one in there!
Title: Re: Distributor cap and rotor button
Post by: Budgie on May 7, 2004, 02:07PM
Can anyone source CA20E dizzy's and rotor buttons for cheap?... well cheaper than $80 for the dizzy ::)
Title: Re: Distributor cap and rotor button
Post by: RichTRX on May 7, 2004, 02:10PM
Mitza I'm having that same problem, but the stretched seal is only the result of a leaking oil seal somewhere else in the head. I'm thinking the oil seal that separates the head & distributer assy? You'll need to replace this first, THEN replace the dizzy seal, else you'll just continue to have repeats of the problem.
Title: Re: Distributor cap and rotor button
Post by: mitza on May 16, 2004, 11:46PM
Hmmmm... thanks, Ill look into it and let you know how it goes :P
Title: Re: Distributor cap and rotor button
Post by: BEEFY_1600 on Oct 1, 2004, 04:54PM
Does anyone know the correct model number for the ka24e distibuter cap from bosh?
Title: Re: Distributor cap and rotor button
Post by: Jtas on Oct 1, 2004, 11:45PM
I don't know the part number, but when I did try and get a Bosch distributor cap the Bosch catalogue was wrong,  the cap that was listed in the catalogue was about half the size of the right one, and the listing for the rotor button was wrong as well :o  I couldn't find a bosch cap or button that was right, so I just bought OEM parts.
Title: Re: Distributor cap and rotor button
Post by: fraz on Nov 5, 2004, 01:25PM
On my 4 plug ca20, i used a b13 sunny distributer cap on a genuine nissan rotor.
cap cost me 15 bux, rotor cost 30
Title: Re: Distributor cap and rotor button
Post by: aussie-gli on Jun 16, 2005, 02:23PM
Bosch Dist cap ~ $12
Bosch Rotor ~ $4

They've finally got the right part for the KA24 & SR20 - were wrong in the past. I'll get the part numbers soon - catalogue is still wrong. All 4 cly caps are around the $10 - $15 mark
Title: Re: Distributor cap and rotor button
Post by: mrnissan-trx on Jun 28, 2005, 10:56PM
i bought it coast me $80
Title: Re: Distributor cap and rotor button
Post by: nightmareCA20E on Jul 25, 2005, 06:57PM
Same here mrnissan-trx

paid $80 for my bosch dist cap and $25 for the rotor bttton.Wich is the ca20e 8 plug one.
Would be nice if i could get the dist cap cheaper next time.   
Title: Re: Distributor cap and rotor button
Post by: BRUCE-TI on Jul 26, 2005, 11:05PM
replaced distributor cap  (noticed very slight cracks) and even changed the distributor to try to stop it missing and bogging down, only to find out it was the fuel pressure regulator.  Bloody thing.  (lucky i had a spare)  So if your ka24 is hard to start and has a problem with power loss,  check this damn thing first.
where was i?
oh yeah....................distr ibutor cap      echlin brand  $28   part number ep851
                               rotor button                           $7.50 (didn't buy)
i am happy now apart from the fuel spraying out from a busted injector o-ring
Title: Re: Distributor cap and rotor button
Post by: nightmareCA20E on Aug 14, 2005, 04:11AM
They also said they'd put new leads on for $160.00

Damm 160 is just to much good on ya for telling them. When i got my cap and rotor a asked about top gun leads and was told like 5-8bucks any lenght i want. gona get some lead soon.
*note the lead is actually just the lead without the contact thingy that is hooked up on the sparks and cap* just have to use the old ones if their in good condish.   
Title: Re: Distributor cap and rotor button
Post by: mycal on Dec 30, 2005, 03:28PM
guys i just go one of these things from Nissan for $14.75, they call it an o ring (I thought they were going to give me the wrong part)
it's part # N2218530R00

Mitza I'm having that same problem, but the stretched seal is only the result of a leaking oil seal somewhere else in the head. I'm thinking the oil seal that separates the head & distributer assy? You'll need to replace this first, THEN replace the dizzy seal, else you'll just continue to have repeats of the problem.
Title: Re: Distributor cap and rotor button
Post by: RichTRX on Jan 16, 2006, 01:04PM
Update on OEM parts - I rang up and ordered mine today.

*O-Ring* - Between the distributor and the head
Part: 22131-1E401
Price: $10.35

*Rotor button*
Part: 22157-54CO1
Price: $27.55

*O-Ring* - Between the distributor and distributor cap
Part: 22185-30ROO
Price: $15.75

*Cap*
Part: 22162-30ROO
Price: $50.30
Title: Re: Distributor cap and rotor button
Post by: mycal on Jan 24, 2006, 02:29PM
Is there any other seals within the distributor besides the O ring around the Base of the distributor that is visible when the distributor is removed and the other that goes directly under the cap?
My old man thinks there should be one somewhere inside the distributor that is allowing the oil to get in.
Title: Re: Distributor cap and rotor button
Post by: JIMB0 on Jan 24, 2006, 03:53PM
There is a seal on the shaft that could let oil in.

Also $10-$15 for an O-ring is just a bit much. You could buy a kit to make your own for less than that.
Title: Re: Distributor cap and rotor button
Post by: mycal on Jan 25, 2006, 03:00PM
10 to 15 bucks is ridiculous, i went to a bearing shop in Bayswater and they gave it to me for free
Title: Re: Distributor cap and rotor button
Post by: RichTRX on Feb 14, 2006, 03:34PM
Is there any other seals within the distributor besides the O ring around the Base of the distributor that is visible when the distributor is removed and the other that goes directly under the cap?
My old man thinks there should be one somewhere inside the distributor that is allowing the oil to get in.


Nope, only that one. Since I replaced mine it has not leaked a smidge of oil.

If you're planning to make one or buy one that was intended for another application, make sure it is oil resistant rubber. If it isn't, the oil will expand and perish the rubber until the seal doesn't work anymore. It can do this over the period of a week in some cases. You've been warned.
Title: Re: Distributor cap and rotor button
Post by: Scradley on Dec 9, 2006, 10:18PM
hehe, my dizzy, well it's on its 5th one now. original shat itself so got one from wreckers, wrong more, things wear out and it broke, even racq had to tell me that,lol. Got a reconditioned one through repco from some mob down in melbourne for about 275 bucks. they offer a 50 dollar return thingie but then the screw that holds the rotor button on fell off and broke all the hall sensors etc etc so i put one on from old parts but it looked dodgy and was about to break which is why i wanted the newer one, they replaced it easy enough free of charge, i added some loctite to the screw this time and haven't had any problems with it since, it still back fires occassionally but i think thats the oxygen sensor, next on list,
Oh and that was for a 2l 90 model corsair. rotor button from repco. 20 bucks, i thought that was cheap, expecting to get stung like the little things under the coils for 111 bucks each from repco, but definetly needed, they're pocket size, so numerous trips to wreckers will get you these for free. lol. I mean, don't do that.
Title: Re: Distributor cap and rotor button
Post by: peeto on Jun 25, 2007, 02:42AM
If it helps at all, I got a new CA20E rotor button from Nissan Bentleigh (Moorabbin) no worries late last year. From memory it wasn't cheap but reasonable enough for me to pay. I remember I inquired about the price for a radio antennae, I can't remember the quoted price but I do remember almost having a heart attack and telling them I wouldn't buy one at that price in a million years. Maybe Nissan dealers price different parts differently from one another.
Title: Re: Distributor cap and rotor button
Post by: Jono on Aug 14, 2007, 11:59PM
Sorry about the late reply, but if you see this peeto, hit up anywhere that stocks Aerpro products for an aerial for your car. They will be able to order one in for about $30-40 or so. Nissan charges about $130 I think.

I paid about $35 or so trade price for a CA20E rotor button from Repco a few months ago. Bosch is still making dizzy parts for the U12 CA20.
Title: Re: Distributor cap and rotor button
Post by: bigbazza6969 on Sep 8, 2007, 11:56PM
haha
I got a rotor button brand new for $35 from my boys at auto pro
Title: Re: Distributor cap and rotor button
Post by: hrmmmm on Feb 21, 2008, 07:25PM
I know this thread is getting old but:

I bought a dizzy cap for a ka24e last week from an auto pro store ( I won't say which one so as not to insult/offend anyone) and i was charged $50 trade for the cap with no oil seal thing. Is this reasonable.

Also on a side note this store this store tried to tell me that although corsair's and pintara's look exactly the same the are different underneath and that pintara engine bits and pieces don't fit on a corsair even though the engine is same, i tried to tell him that pinny's and corsair's look different but engine parts are mostly the same. He didn't beleive me so i told him I had pinny injectors, distributor and cap,02 sensor, lifter's, water pump, moulded fluid lines, engine mounts and driveshafts in or on my corsair for the last year with no problems.
Title: Re: Distributor cap and rotor button
Post by: JelloBello on Feb 21, 2008, 07:49PM
haha... the engines are identical :)
Title: Re: Distributor cap and rotor button
Post by: Ammerty on Feb 22, 2008, 12:59AM
thats funny as - wat a retard lol
Title: Re: Distributor cap and rotor button
Post by: aidee on Jul 22, 2008, 02:07AM
went to walkers at ippy and got a rotor $15 and cap $30(hall effects) and did my rubber hoses(old age had settled in,loose as,) and fixed em up cause some dik shit had the black and brown solenoids/wiring up the  wrong way ,shit and what a difference it has made.look up the pdf in the wiki articles ES87 to make sure your E.C.C.S. is set properly it makes a big difference .Hail  the the mighty pintara :Dthe seal around my dissy is f#$ked no leaks.
Title: Re: Distributor cap and rotor button
Post by: Yaaar on Nov 11, 2008, 08:54PM
  Just an FYI. I'd advise using genuine Nissan cap and rotor. Replaced mine with aftermarket (Champion) and developed a serious miss. ECU gave an 11 code (Crank position sensor). Put the old cap and rotor on and solved the problem. ( AFTER a week of hair pulling, AAC cleaning, throttle body cleaning and MAF cleaning).
Title: Re: Distributor cap and rotor button
Post by: squizz taylor on Jan 22, 2016, 08:27AM
Is there any other seals within the distributor besides the O ring around the Base of the distributor that is visible when the distributor is removed and the other that goes directly under the cap?
My old man thinks there should be one somewhere inside the distributor that is allowing the oil to get in.

Yes he is correct, there is an internal shaft seal. You need to completely strip the distributor to get access to it. Not an easy job unless you have a hydraulic press.