SR20DET Avenir conversion into ADM (KA24) U13

[eddiegarcia]

Hey guys,
I was wondering if anyone has taken on one of these conversions, and if they know if the SR20DET Avenir motor will sit on the standard KA crossmember in my U13 Bluebird.. I also want to know places to fab up an SR bellhousing adapter so I can fit my KA box, as they are sturdier boxes and can handle more power..

What would really help is if someone can point me to a workshop that has successfully done one of these conversions before in Brisbane..

Thanks guys

[Kranzy]

I have just recently done the conversion in a U12. In terms of gearboxes etc...i had a bellhousing to suit the sr and a local shop did the machining and fitting of the sr bellhousing to ka box.

If you dont find a place in brisbane to do this then ill give you there contact details.

[trxnut]

screw the sr20 and buy a turbo kit for the ka24de from ebay for $2500 and im sure you will keep up with moderately worked SR's

just my opinion cause ive beaten alot of sr20s in my BOG STOCK not even pod filter or exhaust ka24de u13 even beaten a few r32s they wernt happy to say the least

Dave

[20vgs]

must have been racing a " nanna "

[Craazy]

dave, i reckon you really should take your statement to the track and back it up, and im not being biased but you would have to be the luckiest bugger to have raced a "turbocharged" SR or RB and won in your KA. there may be a possibility if the SR or RB were Not "turbocharged" and there were still granny shifting.

but going by your 15+ second ET then you better pull your head out of your ass that you truly could beat one all the time!!

[slim]

I beat a R33 ( non turbo ) one night in a drag off the line.
Also at the drags i raced a NX coupe non turbo and i lost by 0.2s That was when the car was suffering from a blown head.
Going by latest pass 15.8s i would beat the NA SR20 again.

Not taking side but presenting facts. Yes dave could depending on driver skills beat a NA SR20 regularly.
NO you can't beat a Turbo SR20, even if it has a auto attesa gearbox on it.
RB well the driver probly didn't care to beat you. I had 4 attempts to get the guy in the skyline to drag me at traffic lights.
After seeing me zoom off, doing 100kph the speed limit, he flies past at over 130kph. Arsehat

[JelloBello]

NO you can't beat a Turbo SR20, even if it has a auto attesa gearbox on it.

Quoted for the truth

[slim]

NO you can't beat a Turbo SR20, even if it has a auto attesa gearbox on it.

Quoted for the truth

You know what i meant by that. I was goin to say something else but decided not to
But im working on it jamie and when i do you shall be my first

[JelloBello]

as long as I get a ride 

[trxnut]

no they were turbo and the guy in the r32 had a few runs with me rolling start 2nd gear 70kph

the sr20 were turbo aswell one u13 attessa and a couple silvias

they were giving it everything they just obviously have crap motors and or shit driving ability

i have seen sr20s and rb20s run high 15s to low 16s at willowbank when i took my trx there.

i have beaten so many cars before that i cleary shouldnt have on paper but have on the road

long story short lets organise a cruise and we can have some fun

[Luke]

no they were turbo and the guy in the r32 had a few runs with me rolling start 2nd gear 70kph

the sr20 were turbo aswell one u13 attessa and a couple silvias

they were giving it everything they just obviously have crap motors and or shit driving ability

i have seen sr20s and rb20s run high 15s to low 16s at willowbank when i took my trx there.

You my freind are a douche!

[JelloBello]

agree'd

you talk quite a bit of bullshit trxnut.

[gtirsss]

if you are after a w10 Avenir SR20det i sell them with warranty and the have been tested.  Engine is complete with ecu and afm. $1495 + $150 for delivery to you in Brisbane

[eddiegarcia]

Mate there is no way you would've beaten even a stock SR20 sil or bluey.. I have a CA19 180SX (albeit forged, stroked and slideable :p), and there is no way in the world my bluey would have a hope of keeping up with it.. no way in hell!!

GTirss I saw your thread on the Avenir mottors and thats what sparked my interest in doing the conversion to my U13, but I have not had any leads on finding any workshops around me that have experience in swapping these engines into my car.. nor can I find any info on;

- what gearbox can be used in the conversion (would like to keep it auto, need a cruiser :p)
- If there are perhaps any off-the-shelf looms available for this type of conversion?
- And approximate prices

I know a shitload about RWD Turbo Nissans, but obviously little to nothing at all about Blueys.. can you tell??

[trxnut]

I wont deny the fact that sr20det's can make incredible power

But ive been driving a long time (over ten years now) and have raced shit loads of cars sr20s included and yeah i have been flogged by a few 180s and Silvia's over that time and i have also flogged a fair few as well in my u12(worked) and u13(stock).

One race sticks in my mind the most and this is why i don't think sr20dets are the be all and end all

I was in my TRX and pulled in for fuel when i noticed another pinny there sporting a nicely sized front mount cooler so i asked him what was in it and he said an sr20det i said is it stock and he said no its running more boost (13psi)and the intocooler and i said yeah that must go alright and he said 185hp atw i said what et does it run but he had not been yet so i asked if he would be up for a run he said whats in yours and i said ka24e and like most of you guys would of done he laughed and said pfft ka24 and i said don't bag it yet it goes pretty hard its not stock, he said alright we'll go for a drive. We got to a set of lights and a nice straight bit of road he was laughing the whole time and said you sure you still want to race and i said yeah you bet! the light went green and we both took off with wheels spinning in first gear where i pulled 1 car on him,hit 2nd gear where i pulled 4 car lengths on him then hit 3rd and he was at least 10 car lengths behind i kept into it to 150kph then backed off, by then he was easily 15 cars behind. i quickly down shifted and returned to 50kph i had to wait a few seconds for him to catch up i waved him over to tell him to pull up and talk again this took some persuading but he did eventually. I said did you give it everything and he said yeah holly shit that ka flys what the fuck have you done to it and i explained my mods, he was very impressed and upset that he had spent $7000 on the conversion only to get flogged by me in a ka24 with only $2500 spent on it (headwork,cam, chip,75mm afm etc). He said he will never bag a ka again.

but yeah believe what you want

i dont talk shit these are my personal experiences

Dave

[Kranzy]

Are you in Brisbane?

I can certainly help you out whether its advice you need or places to take the car to get work done etc...

Looms, jono can sort you out, its not off the shelf as such but he can mod them.

Its a very easy job to do if you really want to put in the time and effort.

[JelloBello]

[offtopic]
allright Dave, I believe that story.

I think either what happened is wheel or clutch slippage on his part. Having said that I just saw you et for the trx in your sig, 15.19 is a very nice number. It's what my bog stock automatic u13 attesa did without launching off the line at all.

Still, we weren't originally talking about your trx - but your stock u13. I honestly still have quite a hard time seeing this beat an sr20det powered car with a half decent driver and fully functioning engine. And this is from my personal experience, myself and Slim have raced quite a number of times - allways ending with the same result.
[/offtopic]

Correct me if I'm wrong here guys but the u13 ka and u12 ka use the same gearbox - so I would assume that you could still use a pulsar SSS gearbox bellhousing mated to the ka gearbox and bolt it straight up to the sr20?

[Kranzy]

Yeah i think your right about the boxes jello, just unsure on the auto side of things cause ive only done the conversion manual.

[trxnut]

i dont think his clutch was slipping becuase i did hear him chirp 2nd

and i did say i shouldnt beat some cars but do, i must have awesome ability and always race shit cars and drivers but i doubt it and i believe my u13 is faster than my u12 as only just last friday night i raced a honda prelude and beat him but a couple of months before that i lost to it in my trx what the? unless my u13 isnt stock? It may already be worked but how can i beat an r32 in it if it is stock?

[trxnut]

ill go to the drags see what it runs then go from there

sorry to be so off topic

good luck with your converion

Dave

[eddiegarcia]

Off topic again.. but I'm not saying KA24s are a shit motor, it's just I have no idea about the integrity of the motor, how much power it can take and have not seen any non-US hardcore KA's around. I'd rather stick to what I know, and what I know are CA's RB's, and SR's, although I'm definetly not a big fan of the SR.. If it's too much messing around in terms of custom fab work on crossmembers and whatnot on the SR, I will just buy a fully reco'd or build my KA24DE.. It's just that it's getting a little long in the tooth (260,000+km), and I'm just exploring different avenues...

[Kranzy]

The SR swap into a U12 is quite straight forward. Very little to no custom fab work so to speak. Into a U13 im not 100% sure on but as the U13 came out with an SR im sure it wont be any harder to fit than the U12.

[eddiegarcia]

thank you very much Kranzy, we're finally getting this thread in the right direction lol.

[gtirsss]

if you are wanting a sr20det let me know mate, kranzy's motor came from me too

[Unbalanced_]

While we're on this general topic? Any other high powered (or able to be made high powered) engines that slot fairly well straight in??