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AFL finals - who is going to win?

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AFL finals - who is going to win?
« on: Sep 16, 2004, 04:20PM »
here is your afl thread.

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #1 on: Sep 16, 2004, 04:22PM »
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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #2 on: Sep 16, 2004, 04:36PM »
I want Geelong to win but I reckon it's gonna be Brisbane AGAIN  ::)

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #3 on: Sep 16, 2004, 04:45PM »
We've got the Power to win
Power to rule
Come on, Port Adelaide aggression
We are the Power from Port
It's more than a sport
It's true Port Adelaide tradition
We'll never stop, stop, stop
Til we're top, top, top
There's history here in the making
Port Power to win
We'll never give in
Til the flag is ours for the taking

With our tradition so strong
We can't go wrong
We're the Alberton crowd
Port Adelaide proud
And the heroes are those
Who've earned the right
To wear the silver - teal
And black and white
And the Port supporters
Standing tall
True believers
One and all

We've got the Power to win
Power to rule
Come on, Port Adelaide aggression
We are the Power from Port
It's more than a sport
It's true Port Adelaide tradition
We'll never stop, stop, stop
Til we're top, top, top
There's history here in the making
Port Power to win
We'll never give in
Til the flag is ours for the taking
PORT POWER!!!
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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #4 on: Sep 16, 2004, 04:47PM »
Bloody adelaide supporters are the biggest psychos... did you see the armed security geelong players needed during the final against port (where port shat on us).  Its coz you adelaide people are all nuts :P... lol

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #5 on: Sep 16, 2004, 04:50PM »
Bloody adelaide supporters are the biggest psychos... did you see the armed security geelong players needed during the final against port (where port shat on us). Its coz you adelaide people are all nuts :P... lol

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I went to that game ;D

yep, thay are INSANE, im so ashamed. its a game of sport. we had this fat fucker sitting about  4 seats across and up a row, he was screaming obsenities ALL the time, saying the unpires need to be shot so they squeel like pigs (which i dont appreciate due to my cousion is an umpire) and id like to see him do a better job!! wanker...

we all got stuck into him, port was 5 goals up and hes screaming his head off, saying they suck etc....

they ruin the game as far as im concerned.
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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #6 on: Sep 16, 2004, 04:52PM »
Yep.  I knew you weren't one of them tyne... well, not one of the psyhco red-neck ones anyway!
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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #7 on: Sep 16, 2004, 04:53PM »
Well, I am NUTS, just not physco!!!

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #8 on: Sep 16, 2004, 05:04PM »
if brisbane wins thats not such a bad thing, it gives something for the other teams to acheive. its good for the game in the fact that because they're the team to beat everyone will be playing harder to achieve that this time, and quite possibly next time around. in the end you get a more competitive game.

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #9 on: Sep 16, 2004, 05:06PM »
True, the top 6 or so teams have become alot more competitive amongst one another over the last few years.  But the low end shitty teams are falling further and further behind (hawthorn anyone?).
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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #10 on: Sep 16, 2004, 05:15PM »
i think the teams that have fallen behind are the teams that dont care about the game anymore and only care about the money. ceo's that do nothing and are scoring fat pay cheques. unfortunately it happens.

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #11 on: Sep 16, 2004, 05:18PM »
scoring fat pay cheques. unfortunately it happens.

Collingwood?
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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #12 on: Sep 16, 2004, 05:21PM »
meh. it goes is phases. Lions have made the finals i think its every year since 1997 or something, yet in 1998 (i think it was that year), they came last.
Hawthorn were awesome in late 80s. Carlton were awesome only a few years back. St Kilda were shithouse last year.
As a general rule clubs have their purple patches and then there down moments. It just fluctuates and i think its normal, and good for the game.

As for the Lions being on top for the last 4 years, i dont care if its good or bad for the game, i just like it  ;D
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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #13 on: Sep 16, 2004, 05:26PM »
power are soo gonna win. just hope when we do all the bogans dont come out of the grovels with their numerous amount of babies and even more numerous amount of old torried and commies and reak havoc.

Well it would be interesting to see how brisbane went if they had the same salary cap as the rest of the teams in the afl.

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #14 on: Sep 16, 2004, 05:28PM »
Yeah, damn brisbane and their 'keeping the players in QLD' money.

I don't think its needed anymore.
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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #15 on: Sep 16, 2004, 05:30PM »
oh dont get me started on fucking melbourne whingers bitching about salary caps  :P
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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #16 on: Sep 16, 2004, 05:31PM »
i just think its hillarious that the best team in the victorian game isnt victorian.

oh dont get me started on fucking melbourne whingers bitching about salary caps :P

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« Reply #17 on: Sep 16, 2004, 05:33PM »
i just think its hillarious that the best team in the victorian game isnt victorian.



amen to that tim. but you dont have to live/work with the whingers.



wooooaahhhh hold up a minute there.........victorian game???  whats this about a victorian game

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #18 on: Sep 16, 2004, 05:44PM »
well it is really. i'm not saying anything else is the australian game instead of afl.. and yes i know there are a few interstate teams, but, more than two thirds of the teams are based in victoria. i'd say thats pretty much victorian based. wouldnt you?

its just like rugby league is the nsw game even though there is a victorian team, 2 queensland teams and a kiwi team.



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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #19 on: Sep 16, 2004, 05:50PM »
why is it that ppl start gettin the shits over the salary cap when the lions start winning, , they didnt care when they were losing, but now that they are winning they chuck a tantie, ( mainly eddie maguire)


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« Reply #20 on: Sep 16, 2004, 05:54PM »
damn eddie maguire. i cant beleive they let him commentate his own team playing.


Its funny though. Victorians classify themselves as the originators of the afl which is damn funny considering the SANFL (please dont say it as one word like sam newman does. it S A N F L) was created long b4 the VFL existed. Its just that victoria has the best ground in australia to play on so the grand final is there

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #21 on: Sep 16, 2004, 06:12PM »
but only the victorians think its the best ground, it aint

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #22 on: Sep 16, 2004, 06:19PM »
damn eddie maguire. i cant beleive they let him commentate his own team playing.


Its funny though. Victorians classify themselves as the originators of the afl which is damn funny considering the SANFL (please dont say it as one word like sam newman does. it S A N F L) was created long b4 the VFL existed. Its just that victoria has the best ground in australia to play on so the grand final is there

whatever!! football was invented in victoria to keep cricket players fit in winter and give them something else to do.

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #23 on: Sep 16, 2004, 06:21PM »


GO HAWTHORN!!! :P



they'll be better next year

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #24 on: Sep 16, 2004, 06:32PM »
they better be.

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #25 on: Sep 16, 2004, 08:11PM »
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But the low end sh*tty teams are falling further and further behind (hawthorn anyone?).
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« Reply #26 on: Sep 16, 2004, 08:29PM »
Saints would win if they play at Telstra Dome with the roof shut.
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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #27 on: Sep 17, 2004, 12:15AM »
go pies!!!...hang on wrong season  :'( lets hear a home town cheer for the vic teams!  If brisbane wins aker will not fit on the plane home, this must be stopped!!!

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #28 on: Sep 17, 2004, 12:49AM »
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                                                  "GO THE MIGHTY LIONS"                          (4 in a row is the way to go)
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« Reply #30 on: Sep 17, 2004, 01:03AM »
Come on 3 in a row is enough for u guys just let us have this 1, we havn't won 1 since 63

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #31 on: Sep 17, 2004, 07:35AM »
obviously not trying hard enough

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #32 on: Sep 17, 2004, 09:06AM »
They do alright...just not in the important games!

All i can say is watch those blues next year, i rekon it'll be a better year then the one we've just had.
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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #33 on: Sep 17, 2004, 09:37AM »
Blues finished well this year...dunno about next year for them. I envisage them around 9th/10th. In a couple of years, they should come good.

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #34 on: Sep 17, 2004, 09:57AM »
the only reason victoria plays afl is because nsw plays rugby league. i'm sure if nsw played afl victoria would have played rugby league :P

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #35 on: Sep 17, 2004, 01:48PM »
Blues finished well this year...dunno about next year for them. I envisage them around 9th/10th. In a couple of years, they should come good.

Yeah we will have a better year next year...probably finish just outside the 8, but in a few years time we will be on fire like the good old days
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« Reply #36 on: Sep 17, 2004, 02:03PM »
Its funny though. Victorians classify themselves as the originators of the afl which is damn funny considering the SANFL (please dont say it as one word like sam newman does. it S A N F L) was created long b4 the VFL existed. Its just that victoria has the best ground in australia to play on so the grand final is there

"The Melbourne Football Club was founded August 7, 1858, as an adjunct of the Melbourne Cricket Club; it was the first football club in Australia, and one of the first anywhere."

From here--  http://www.afana.com/af_faq_sec1.shtml

AND... the MCG is the best and always will be the best sporting ground in australia :P... So shutup!
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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #37 on: Sep 17, 2004, 02:35PM »
if we're going to get technical,  Australian Rules Football was first played by a bloke named Tom Wills and his friends in the Richmond Paddock on July 31, 1858.

Oh and the South Australian Football Association was formed in May 1877 

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #38 on: Sep 17, 2004, 02:38PM »
Ta tas, thanks for the historical backup mate :D
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« Reply #39 on: Sep 17, 2004, 02:41PM »
I was given the book "100 years of Australian Football" 4 or 5 years ago, ive never really read much of it but i knew it would come in use ::) :P

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #40 on: Sep 17, 2004, 07:50PM »
Its funny though. Victorians classify themselves as the originators of the afl which is damn funny considering the SANFL (please dont say it as one word like sam newman does. it S A N F L) was created long b4 the VFL existed.
"The Melbourne Football Club was founded August 7, 1858, as an adjunct of the Melbourne Cricket Club; it was the first football club in Australia, and one of the first anywhere."

if we're going to get technical,  Australian Rules Football was first played by a bloke named Tom Wills and his friends in the Richmond Paddock on July 31, 1858.




as for who is going to win, hopefully geelong.

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #41 on: Sep 17, 2004, 09:15PM »
i mean the SANFL was created b4 the VFL.

Geez i thought that was common knowledge.


maybe victoria had a league between 3 or 4 clubs way back when but the VFL was created after the SANFL


i think even the WAFL was created b4 the VFL
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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #42 on: Sep 17, 2004, 09:25PM »
Browny if you want to get really technical...AFL was originally played up in the northern territory as an aboriginal game. Basically was no rules and they played with a rolled up piece of leather, then a few guys decided to make up some rules to use and walla...the vfl/afl/sanfl was created.
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« Reply #43 on: Sep 17, 2004, 10:34PM »
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« Reply #44 on: Sep 17, 2004, 11:51PM »
What an awesome game!!! :D

I must say that that was the best final i have watched in a long time. Altough i was supporting the saints...well done to the power. looks like they'll have to choke next week  :P.
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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #45 on: Sep 17, 2004, 11:52PM »
Stupid friggin bogans SA turds beat St Kilda...

Can you tell I don't like Port Power? :D... hehe

Great game though, right down to the wire which is what you want in the finals!
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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #46 on: Sep 18, 2004, 12:10AM »
Crazy game hey!  How good is Wanganeen!  The St Kilda dude at the end if he kicked it off the ground two steps earlier it wudda gone to extra time!  Geez u'd be pissed at urself!

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #47 on: Sep 18, 2004, 12:59PM »
i mean the SANFL was created b4 the VFL.

So??? Victoria had the V.F.A. before the V.F.L. its only really a name, the point is Victoria was playing football before South Australia, it could also be argued that Tasmania was playing football before South Australia, but we wont get into that debate ;)

Browny if you want to get really technical...AFL was originally played up in the northern territory as an aboriginal game. Basically was no rules and they played with a rolled up piece of leather, then a few guys decided to make up some rules to use and walla...the vfl/afl/sanfl was created.

where'd you get that info from?

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #48 on: Sep 18, 2004, 02:24PM »
where'd you get that info from?

My old man is  a walking football encyclopeidia!
I dont know where he got the info from but when i see him ill ask him. Basically AFL was first played with rules and as a competition in victoria. It could have been played anywhere else before victoria played it but it became an official sport in victoria.

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #49 on: Sep 18, 2004, 03:21PM »
lol afl = areal ping pong lol,

nah its not too bad thought BRISBANE TO WIN
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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #50 on: Sep 18, 2004, 04:54PM »
SCREW BRISBANE!!!!!!

Being a mad collingwood supporter, i hope their heads finally explode and geelong (as much as i hate to say) kick their arse.

Every collingwood supporter out there must be against the lions. We cant let this side of cheap "pay cutting" pricks equal the legendary feats of the pies premiership record from '27 - '30!

If they win tonite, they better watch out during the grand final parade through the city cos it would be unfortuante if one of the parade cars crashed or maybe blows up...

Go to hell brisbane, stick to rugby.

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #51 on: Sep 18, 2004, 04:58PM »
SCREW BRISBANE!!!!!!

Being a mad collingwood supporter, i hope their heads finally explode and geelong (as much as i hate to say) kick their arse.

Every collingwood supporter out there must be against the lions. We cant let this side of cheap "pay cutting" pricks equal the legendary feats of the pies premiership record from '27 - '30!

If they win tonite, they better watch out during the grand final parade through the city cos it would be unfortuante if one of the parade cars crashed or maybe blows up...

Go to hell brisbane, stick to rugby.

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #52 on: Sep 18, 2004, 05:17PM »
LOL stick... eddie maguire should eat a dick.
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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #53 on: Sep 18, 2004, 05:29PM »
...Being a mad collingwood supporter...

yes you must be mad to go for collingwood!!

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #54 on: Sep 18, 2004, 06:52PM »
man thats the reason why so many ppl hate collingwood - they're friggin whingers

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #55 on: Sep 18, 2004, 07:01PM »
their excuse as to why they played so shit this year was quite ammusing. as was their excuse for losing to brisbane in the finals. and then all the collingwood supporters hate brisbane supporters cause brisbane on the day were a better than them. top logic :P

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #56 on: Sep 18, 2004, 07:22PM »
Its ok though, as everyone else who doesn't barrack for the pies hates 'em :D
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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #57 on: Sep 18, 2004, 09:01PM »
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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #58 on: Sep 18, 2004, 11:26PM »
another ripper of a game...but yet again not the result i was hoping for.
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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #59 on: Sep 18, 2004, 11:30PM »
haha, GO THE LIONS ;D scrappy, tight , low scoring game. it was a close thing until brissy got those couple of quick goals in the last 1/4.
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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #60 on: Sep 19, 2004, 05:39PM »
DAMN YOU LIONSSSSSSSS!!!!! you got to feel for the walking wounded though, mcrae with his hammy gone and little hart~ not even the helmet could save that one...ouch! those two games were such value for money right down to the wire. cant beat that.

i hate port adelaide but i hate bisbane more...so i think im gonna be sick when i say "GO PORT!!!!!"

some wanganeen magic, tredrea muscle, and pickett martyr-dom will set up a fairytale end to brisbanes reign...PORT by 27 points

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #61 on: Sep 19, 2004, 06:06PM »
im not whinging, nor making excuses, but geelong could of easily won against brisbane if they had some forwards that could kick goals!!!  my granny could of kicked some of the goals that they missed ::)  same goes for St Kilda.  They were both great games though.


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« Reply #62 on: Sep 19, 2004, 07:35PM »
Brisbane played like a bunch of old women yesterday!  Lucky to be there.  They won't win the flag if they play like that again!
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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #63 on: Sep 19, 2004, 09:20PM »
geelong had soo many chances to win that game. I think port has a great chance in winning next week.

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #64 on: Sep 19, 2004, 11:57PM »
brisbane will learn from yesterday & kick ports arse in the 'grand final'.
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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #65 on: Sep 20, 2004, 10:13AM »
you guys should have seen the front page of the papers here in melbourne yesterday.. it was completely black with a picture of the scream mask wrapped in port power and lions scarves..




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VICTORIAN footy fans' worst nightmare finally came true last night – two interstate teams will contest the AFL Grand Final.

Victorian football stalwarts and public figures said the interstate Grand Final marked the end of a proud era

Legendary player and coach Ron Barassi said Victorians would have to live with the new era.

Queensland Premier Peter Beattie was unusually diplomatic, saying the outsiders scenario should be a source of pride for Victorians – their game was truly national.



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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #66 on: Sep 20, 2004, 10:17AM »
they've forgotten that the brisbane lions are part fitzroy  so a victorian team is in the grand final, sort of ::) :P

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #67 on: Sep 20, 2004, 11:09AM »
We've got the Power to win
Power to rule
Come on, Port Adelaide aggression
We are the Power from Port
It's more than a sport
It's true Port Adelaide tradition
We'll never stop, stop, stop
Til we're top, top, top
There's history here in the making
Port Power to win
We'll never give in
Til the flag is ours for the taking

With our tradition so strong
We can't go wrong
We're the Alberton crowd
Port Adelaide proud
And the heroes are those
Who've earned the right
To wear the silver - teal
And black and white
And the Port supporters
Standing tall
True believers
One and all

We've got the Power to win
Power to rule
Come on, Port Adelaide aggression
We are the Power from Port
It's more than a sport
It's true Port Adelaide tradition
We'll never stop, stop, stop
Til we're top, top, top
There's history here in the making
Port Power to win
We'll never give in
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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #68 on: Sep 20, 2004, 11:23AM »
Thats right, beat a man while he's down.

So Collingwood haven't had the best year, but even we could have beaten Brisbane on sat nite.

But anyway, looking forward to the cricket season now............


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« Reply #69 on: Sep 20, 2004, 11:27AM »
just cause you dont like a sport doesnt mean no one else can play it.


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« Reply #70 on: Sep 20, 2004, 08:32PM »
brisbane will learn from yesterday & kick ports arse in the 'grand final'.

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« Reply #71 on: Sep 20, 2004, 08:54PM »
port adelaide  = CHOKERS!!!!!

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« Reply #72 on: Sep 20, 2004, 11:39PM »
the short odds are right over here

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #73 on: Sep 21, 2004, 12:04AM »
Go the Judd man, that was an incredible polling of votes 30 is bloody huge! killed it, what a champ and only 21 yrs old...just incredible

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« Reply #74 on: Sep 21, 2004, 12:06AM »
no pies

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« Reply #75 on: Sep 21, 2004, 04:35AM »
Go the Judd man, that was an incredible polling of votes 30 is bloody huge! killed it, what a champ and only 21 yrs old...just incredible

thats the first i have heard, been to work and then out all night! Thats good shit. I really didnt care who won as long as it wasnt Tredrea. now HE needs to eat a dick!
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« Reply #76 on: Sep 21, 2004, 04:57AM »
thats the first i have heard, been to work and then out all night! Thats good shit. I really didnt care who won as long as it wasnt Tredrea. now HE needs to eat a dick!

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« Reply #77 on: Sep 21, 2004, 04:12PM »
i thnk that happens to tredrea a lot, or maybe it was part of their training

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« Reply #78 on: Sep 21, 2004, 06:13PM »
hahahahahaha i love the name of that pic, "hungrypower"
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« Reply #79 on: Sep 21, 2004, 10:18PM »
i didnt expect treddas to win. Its really a medal for the mid fielders. I wanted to roo to win cause hes a gun player but Judd aint too bad either really.

Port are the underdogs going into the grand final which is good. cause if we win we can go sucked in to everyone who supports them. if we lose we can go meh we wernt expected to anyway

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« Reply #80 on: Sep 21, 2004, 10:50PM »
one word:

chokers  ;)
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« Reply #81 on: Sep 21, 2004, 10:55PM »
yeah they really choked last week.... and the week b4.......


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« Reply #82 on: Sep 21, 2004, 11:05PM »
brisbane is gonna win...again!

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« Reply #83 on: Sep 22, 2004, 08:08AM »
um how is brisbane cheating browny???

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« Reply #84 on: Sep 22, 2004, 01:28PM »
probably the whole salary cap issue. everyone is shitty about it. but no one has a go at sydney for cheating and they're in the same salary cap situation as brisbane.

just a very lame excuse for people that support teams that are, at this current point in time, not making the grade.

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« Reply #85 on: Sep 22, 2004, 05:28PM »
exactly, it just coz their winning, damn sore losers  :P

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« Reply #86 on: Sep 22, 2004, 05:56PM »
the one thing that people choose to forget when it comes to brisbane's salary cap is that they dont pay more for their players than any other team, they use that extra money to pay for accomodation at places they feel comfortable at rather than the ones chosen by the afl, and this costs the lions lots of money from their own pocket, which is where that extra money goes.


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« Reply #87 on: Sep 22, 2004, 09:48PM »
actually all up brisbane spend alot more then most other teams on their players. No other team could afford players like black, akka, lynch ,etc. and still have a full side. I hate sydney too. they are also cheaters yet they arnt in the grand final so it didnt come up in this thread.

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #88 on: Sep 22, 2004, 10:44PM »
sarcasm on\

Brisbane are cheaters because they have such good weather up there, that is why all the good players play for Brisbane.  Why do you think Tasmania doesn't even have an AFL team? yep because the weather isnt attractive enough for players.

I think it is very unfair that Brisbane gets all the good weather,  I wonder how much of the extra money Brisbane has (that they shouldn't have in the first place) goes towards paying the sun to shine brighter over Brisbane, thus enticing better players? 

This MUST be stopped, I propose us southerners create an artificial cloud over Brisbane.

So fuck you sun, you hot bastard.

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« Reply #89 on: Sep 23, 2004, 09:04AM »
the one thing that people choose to forget when it comes to brisbane's salary cap is that they dont pay more for their players than any other team, they use that extra money to pay for accomodation at places they feel comfortable at rather than the ones chosen by the afl, and this costs the lions lots of money from their own pocket, which is where that extra money goes.

exactly, and they also have the longest away trip by any club in the AFL, and also travel the most in a regular season, so infact all other AFL clubs are "cheating" because they dont travel as much, therefor are physicaly and mentally fresher than brisbane would be

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« Reply #90 on: Sep 23, 2004, 09:40AM »
yehr...just face it...brisbane still has the best team

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« Reply #91 on: Sep 23, 2004, 01:23PM »
the dockers or the eagles have the longest away trip sorry, perth being the most isolated state capital in the world.  Also, the extra money is to go toward player retention in the brisbane region as it is rather disconnected up there. 
You still think brisbane dont throw around there exorbatant amounts of money? how about them paying melbourne to go play a 'home' game up there...poor melbourne, they're like the homeless men of the game---you throw them a crumb n they com'a runnin'.

Finally, Big Ed did have a go at Sydney but their reasons are more legit than Brisbanes, extra money for higher cost of living in sydney.seems marginally fairer to me... :-\

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« Reply #92 on: Sep 23, 2004, 01:32PM »
cris judds gf..... SOOO HOT. damn i wish the tape didnt hold.


How does brisbane have the furthest to travel out of any team. 75% of games are played in vic. Its not far from brisbane to victoria every week. SA teams have to go much further then brisbane. Then the WA teams have to go further then any other state. Why dont they get extra money???

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« Reply #93 on: Sep 23, 2004, 01:46PM »
because the western australian teams are set up well and they have the wafl over there.  whereas sydney and brisbane are in 'rugby dominated' territory thus are 'at risk' l

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« Reply #94 on: Sep 23, 2004, 01:48PM »
lol in other words they need to be successful teams otherwise no one will have interest in them. what a dumb idea

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« Reply #95 on: Sep 23, 2004, 04:08PM »
must be a victorian thing

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« Reply #96 on: Sep 23, 2004, 05:31PM »
Its not far from brisbane to victoria every week.

yeh man, i can hop on my pushy and be at the MCG in no time  ::)
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« Reply #97 on: Sep 24, 2004, 07:52AM »
brisbane and sydney have to travel interstate for every away game, no other team does because they have two or more clubs

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« Reply #98 on: Sep 24, 2004, 08:51AM »
i think you'll find that adelaid is next door to victoria...and brisbane is up in queensland

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« Reply #99 on: Sep 24, 2004, 10:51AM »
wow :o   thanks for that geography leason, I would have never known that if you didnt tell us damien :P

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« Reply #100 on: Sep 24, 2004, 11:11AM »
i think he was just assisting browny with his geography there tas.

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« Reply #101 on: Sep 24, 2004, 03:39PM »
I'll be going for the lions tomorrow, hope they either:

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« Reply #102 on: Sep 24, 2004, 06:38PM »
the only scray thing about port when they win is the amount of bogans that suddenly think they are cool with their mullets. yes i am a port supporter but not a bogan

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« Reply #103 on: Sep 24, 2004, 09:48PM »
u sure about that??  just jokn  :P

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« Reply #104 on: Sep 24, 2004, 11:38PM »
lol i got a friend who drives a commodore with cut springs and has a mullet...bogan centeral

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« Reply #105 on: Sep 25, 2004, 09:02PM »
hmm yes well it seem port has come up trumps. HELL YEAH!!!!  and people thought they would lose. HA!


btrw its 8 hours adelaide to melbourne sitting on about 120km/h on the freeway.

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« Reply #106 on: Sep 25, 2004, 09:17PM »
well done to port!:)  however it was a rather poor game as far as skill goes from my (non bias) point of view. compared to the saints V power and lions V cats

btrw its 8 hours adelaide to melbourne sitting on about 120km/h on the freeway.

pfft. it took us 8 hours sitting on 110km/h, no need to speed!  :P

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« Reply #107 on: Sep 25, 2004, 11:04PM »
pickett with the norm smith, damn i'm good! if only i had the money to put in my mouth id be a rich man...

THE lions have been reduced to KITTY LITTER!!!! its about time that the shoe was on the other foot, what about the punch ons??? lynch is just a pyscho, and seems to get away with it a lot, does he have something against the wakelin family?!?!? 10 points to hardwick for gettin under brisbanes nose and playing the game plan

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« Reply #108 on: Sep 26, 2004, 12:16AM »
kitty litter? 3/4 premierships the lasy 4 years. yeh good one.
Credit to Port, they played awesome, lions played like absolute horseshit!

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« Reply #109 on: Sep 26, 2004, 01:31AM »
yeah I didn't really expect Port to win, as they seem to crush under pressure, but they really held their game today and I think they really deserved to win the Premierships. I don't think Brisbane really took them seriously enough either, and thought they could just sit up there on their high horse and simply win the game by looking good, but too bad for them. And Ackermenace or however you spell it, he's just a dickwank... anyone see him bite that port player? That was funny. He got his head slammed into the ground for it though, which was also pretty funny.

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in SA 120km/h isnt speeding  ;D

yes akka is the biggest wanker in the afl. Pushed the port player in the face right infront of goal so the call was turned around..... and then he acted like he did nothing. Was funny. Yeah i saw him bite the port players hand. thats why scofield (how eva u spell it) was ready to pound him.

Cant waitto see the results from the tribunal.

Late last night (at around midnight) when driving home there were so many people still yelling and screaming.

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« Reply #111 on: Sep 26, 2004, 12:41PM »
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« Reply #112 on: Sep 26, 2004, 01:14PM »
Cant waitto see the results from the tribunal.

hehe, i wonder what they will do with Alistair Lynch? seeing as he is retiring, he would have been suspended for a few weeks otherwise!

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« Reply #113 on: Sep 26, 2004, 01:42PM »
ahhh when the game was lost i wanted them to send Lynchy on to knock some jaws off, seeing as he was retiring  :P

but alas, the Lions will be back next year  8)

oh and the most classic call coming from the commentary box was "its 1 point the difference....and thats the margin between the 2 teams"  :D anyone else hear that?
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hehe, i wonder what they will do with Alistair Lynch? seeing as he is retiring, he would have been suspended for a few weeks otherwise!

if he get found quilt and sicne he has already annouced he is retiring he ill receive a fine instead of game penalties. It would have been better for him to say he wasnt going to retire then once the verdict of X amount of games is given, retire. Therefore he recieves no fine.


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« Reply #115 on: Sep 26, 2004, 03:41PM »
I think you might find that he will still get game penalties because if he comes out of retirement or doesnt retire then he will get off scott free so yeah i rekon they'll sill give him weeks...maybe even both. :-\
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« Reply #116 on: Sep 26, 2004, 05:20PM »
but what happens if he hasnt fully retired from football and plays some games in the seconds? does a suspension carry over into that?   ::) :P

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« Reply #117 on: Sep 26, 2004, 08:08PM »
The way it works is if your suspended its however many fixtured games u cannot play. so im guessing if hes playing reserves then he will still have to wait however many games he gets before he plays again.

Put it this way...if your playing u18's and get reported and get a 4 week suspension you have to miss 4 weeks of any footy until your 4 weeks are up. So if you play u18's and seniors you cannot play seniors or u18s untill your u18 suspension is up. Which means if you get 4 weeks and theres a bye in those for weeks he will miss 5 weeks of all footy.

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« Reply #118 on: Sep 27, 2004, 06:04PM »
In the Herald Sun today, Mal Michael launched an attack on akermaniis and Brown saying that their ego's got in the way and lost the game.  It didn;t seem like his words had been twisted around to suit the media so what does everyone think of this???  Is it fair enough that finally someone admits that not all is rosy with the huge self esteem that certain people carry about? or is it just whinging from a team so used to success that it needs a scape goat to deflect the attention? or maybe its a combo of the two ??? :-\

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« Reply #119 on: Sep 27, 2004, 06:31PM »
what does it really matter if they lost? they've won 3 in a row.. egos could get in the way, especially after winning 3 in a row, because you know you are that good that you can win.. look at the canberra raiders back in the early 90's i think it was, they came along for their 3rd premiership in a row and the released shirts at stores saying they'd won 3 in a row before they even played the game!

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« Reply #120 on: Sep 27, 2004, 07:46PM »
did they win though?

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« Reply #121 on: Sep 27, 2004, 08:33PM »
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« Reply #122 on: Sep 27, 2004, 09:55PM »
i think its even better that port won after hearing what mal micheal had to say. According to the radio today, some lions players were saying how much they are gonna whoop port by. and they were saying how much of a walk over its gonna be for them...... and they lost bahahahahahahaha. typical brisbane supporter though bashed a port supporter outside the ground unprovoked from behind.

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« Reply #123 on: Sep 27, 2004, 10:19PM »
typical brisbane supporter though bashed a port supporter outside the ground unprovoked from behind.

how is that the act of a typical brisbane supporter?  the person that bashed the port supporter may have been a brisbane supporter, but that doesn't mean its what brisbane supporters do in general.  And are you saying that a Port supporter has never bashed someone? and if they have does that mean every other port supporter does? no.

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« Reply #124 on: Sep 27, 2004, 10:25PM »
no a port supporter ha neva bashed anyone.... they just run over them in their cars then steal thier wallets lol.

i was just making a generalization. it wasnt relevant to the bashing but more to being sore losers. Thats all ive heard this week from Brisbane supports about how they were robbed. may not be all but all who i have talked too about it.

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« Reply #125 on: Sep 27, 2004, 11:31PM »
browny you should know better, the media just show you want they want to show you.

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« Reply #126 on: Sep 28, 2004, 12:33AM »
I was away & missed the game. oh well, 3 in a row is good & we were in the grand final.
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« Reply #127 on: Sep 28, 2004, 12:44PM »
and they said the suspect a brisbane supporter, they didnt say it was one, it could have been a disgruntled hawthorn supporter out for revenge

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« Reply #128 on: Sep 28, 2004, 07:41PM »
it could have been a disgruntled hawthorn supporter out for revenge

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« Reply #129 on: Sep 28, 2004, 07:58PM »
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« Reply #130 on: Sep 28, 2004, 09:06PM »
crazy hawthorne supporters  :P  :P

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« Reply #131 on: Sep 28, 2004, 09:27PM »
browny you should know better, the media just show you want they want to show you.

how sadly true that is. Last report was the offender was wearing a brisbane scarff. It was probably a hawthorn supporter wearing a lions scarff lol

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« Reply #132 on: Sep 28, 2004, 09:28PM »
it was probably you wearing the scarf browny :P

its pretty stupid though, its not like supporters havent beaten people up before. you shoulda seen the year the lions lost in one of the semi finals to the roos (i think) i was there, and there were kangaroo supporters beating the shit out of lions supporters and the roos won!

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« Reply #133 on: Sep 29, 2004, 05:43PM »
oi, dont have a go at Hawthorn!

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« Reply #134 on: Oct 1, 2004, 12:48PM »
bullshit or not, it really has been a huge slide for bisbane ...well in my view anyway.  Lost the grand final, players reported [ lynch 10 weeks, black 3 weeks, brown ???] players  accused of being big headed from other players, headbutting, biting, retirements, anger management.... i think thats about it but if thats not a fall from grace what is?

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« Reply #135 on: Oct 1, 2004, 01:02PM »
If its a fall from grace then they must be drowning their sorrows if thier drunkeness over the last week is any indication.

On tuesday night quite a few lions were out (vossy, blacky. leppa, etc). But none worse than Tim Notting who was incapable of stringing a sentence together. Or when he did, it made no sense. My mates said he was even worse on Sunday night, when a bouncer told him to do his fly up and it took him 10 minutes. Then my mate sends me a message in disbelief when he is out this wednesday night and sees him again at the bar. Mad Monday? MAD WEEK! I'd hate to see him if they won! :D


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« Reply #136 on: Oct 1, 2004, 01:06PM »
they cant do any of that shit for a whole season, no afl palyer can, its not just brisbane. i think they're allowed to do what the fuck they like when the season is over. dont you?

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« Reply #137 on: Oct 1, 2004, 01:34PM »
oh im not saying its wrong. I was on the piss friday, sunday, and tuesday nights  ;D Notting was the only one really making a dick of himself.

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he comes up to me, mumbles some shit and im like "huh?". Then he points to this chick who is standing next to him (who had been talking to most of the players that night, looked like a friend) and goes "u wanna lick this chicks p***y!?" then pissed himself laughing while me and the chick are like "riiiiiight".

But yes, if i was a footy player then at the end of the season i would be sinking piss a lot too. I just thought the "maggot every night" scenario was more reserved for the team who won the grand final.

But then again my brother played with notting a few years ago and tells me he as always been a piss head
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« Reply #138 on: Oct 1, 2004, 01:41PM »
lol i know id get smashed every night if i cant do it for a year.

I think Brisbane could have lost gracefully but instead went out looking like absolute wankers.

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #139 on: Oct 1, 2004, 02:05PM »
its a load of rubbish the amount of spotlight going to afl players.  They should be allowed to go out drinking and partying without being harassed by media and supporters.  On the other foot however, is that they should keep some semblance of self control when out doing what they do.

what shocked me though was the paper reporting that 7 of 8 tests conducted in the male toilets at the brownlow showed traces of speed, ecstacy and cocaine
1 out of 6 tests showed the positive results in the female rooms.

I think drinking is a social drug that is shown to be used properly, drugs though are a disgrace to the game, the players and an insult to those that idolise these people.

P.S - every game the lions go into, akermanis looks like a wanker!  ;D

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #140 on: Oct 1, 2004, 07:30PM »
he cant help it, he was born that way

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #141 on: Oct 1, 2004, 07:44PM »
speaking of alistair lynches $ fine and token suspension...

The Tassie Devils VFL teams best and fairest medal (like the brownlow) is called the Lynch Medal.... not really fair:P
*Alistair Lynch is Tasmanian if your wondering.

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #142 on: Oct 1, 2004, 08:37PM »
*Alistair Lynch is Tasmanian if your wondering.

ahhhhh so thats what Wakelin must of been sledging Lynchy about to get him so fired up  :D
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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #143 on: Oct 1, 2004, 08:49PM »
smart arse ;D

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« Reply #144 on: Oct 2, 2004, 03:37PM »
 :D

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #145 on: Oct 3, 2004, 02:44AM »
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P.S - every game the lions go into, akermanis looks like a wanker! 

Wholeheartedly agree.  ;D

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #146 on: Oct 3, 2004, 07:19PM »
the bleached hair with black goatee is just an abomination
i dont care much for afl, but i love it when brawls are on, theres like 36 players on the field to get into the action

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« Reply #147 on: Oct 3, 2004, 09:18PM »
yeah...the action is much better off camera too, cause they try to avoid showing it most of the time...better when your there

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #148 on: Oct 3, 2004, 10:42PM »
so, do we think 6 weeks is justice for Brown??? 3 weeks for striking, and another 3 for the vaseline on his face that makes him look like a greased up [language filter smackdown]-monkey??

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #149 on: Oct 3, 2004, 10:45PM »
6 weeks! fark we better not get many injuries at the start of next season or we will be sh!t
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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #150 on: Oct 3, 2004, 10:59PM »
mwuhahahahahhahahahahaha *cough* haha  ;D ;D

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #151 on: Oct 5, 2004, 10:13AM »
Brown only got 5 weeks...and Brisbane are thinking of appealing......bullshit, lol.

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #152 on: Oct 5, 2004, 02:12PM »
i think that 5's pretty right, would be good to see them appeal - use the 15 grand and then see brown gone for 6 weeks instead  :D
herald sun says that he got 1 perhaps 2 weeks less because of an impassioned plea by garry lyon...WHAT ARE YOU DOIN GARRY!!!! sheeesh, helping the enemy  >:(

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #153 on: Oct 5, 2004, 04:04PM »
... must have paid Lyon a hefty sum of bling bling to speak up

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Re: AFL finals - who is going to win?
« Reply #154 on: Oct 5, 2004, 04:18PM »
5 weeks is ok considering his record. it was a good proper hit, something u dont see much of in afl anymore
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