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THE FASTEST N/A TRX (ON THIS SITE THAT IS)
« on: Sep 12, 2006, 11:18PM »
My little baby ran 15.814 @ 140.11kph(87.06mph)

 60ft 2.308,330ft 6.580 660ft [email protected](68.72mph) 1000ft 13.217

and the best thing was i beat a vr v6 commodore by 1,126 sec he ran 16.864 which i thoght was shit he had a pod, extractors and 2 3/4 inch exhaust he he he shit box

the fastest antrx cars topic should be updated as soon as noss can put it up there, i sent the email to the [email protected] so i dont think he got it it should of been [email protected] only ill send it to him tommorrow

now i have bragging rights..... 

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Re: THE FASTEST N/A TRX (ON THIS SITE THAT IS)
« Reply #1 on: Sep 12, 2006, 11:26PM »
what modifications are you running? thats a pretty good time   :o
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« Reply #2 on: Sep 12, 2006, 11:34PM »
a bit xxxx

ok pod filter, 2.5inch exh,full rebuild inc, ported head,cam regrind,balanced bottom end, lighted and balanced fly wheel inc clutch (heavy duty RPM) and i also tend to think its a bit of a freak motor straight from the factory

I would also like to add that my pb qtr time is 15.79sec but i cant find the slip it was about a year and a half ago damn it lol but 15.814 still gets me the fastest time, YIPEE!
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« Reply #3 on: Sep 12, 2006, 11:46PM »
Hmm... when do caulder drags start pumping again?  Any melb ppls know?
15.8 is a very good time.  Surely you have a chip in there with those mods?  Otherwise i'd say you have room for improvement still.

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« Reply #4 on: Sep 12, 2006, 11:54PM »
no CAI either so that could become even faster  :)
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« Reply #5 on: Sep 12, 2006, 11:58PM »
oh yeah i forgot that i have a stage 3 chip 3inch intake pipe and Maxima AFM (air flow meter)

Thats my latest mods so with more time at the drags i should be pulling 15.5-15.6 with perfect start and perfect shifts and more driving time.l lost my licence back in april which was 2 weeks after the new clutch went in so i hadnt got used to it not slipping all the time especially 1st to 2nd.

still happy with 15.8

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Re: THE FASTEST N/A TRX (ON THIS SITE THAT IS)
« Reply #6 on: Sep 13, 2006, 12:04AM »
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maybe but i have cut a hole in the bonnet where the pod is, although its letting heat out it isnt exactly forcing the cold air in i like the way noss has his done, a fair bit of work though, but this is me so it peobably wont be long till i do it the same way

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« Reply #7 on: Sep 13, 2006, 12:15AM »
theres about a 1 hr, $20 DIY for one, dodgey but cheap and effective.

http://www.antrx.com/tech/article.php?t=4437&a=budginator
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« Reply #8 on: Sep 13, 2006, 12:15AM »
ummm i think my exhaust is only 2.1/4 inch

oh well it works.

 i still have to fix my leaking injector although i dont think it will effect my time by much if anything it isnt pissing out fuel just a bit of a dribble.

 

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« Reply #9 on: Sep 13, 2006, 12:28AM »
yeh its not .com.au mate.. its just .com.

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Re: THE FASTEST N/A TRX (ON THIS SITE THAT IS)
« Reply #10 on: Sep 13, 2006, 12:38AM »
theres about a 1 hr, $20 DIY for one, dodgey but cheap and effective.

http://www.antrx.com/tech/article.php?t=4437&a=budginator

that cutting out behind the light method is a pain. Just rip out the cornering light, or bust a whole downwards where the tank to reduce intake noise is. all you gotta do is trace a circle and drill it out slowly with a small drill bit.
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« Reply #11 on: Sep 13, 2006, 12:58AM »
Hmm... when do caulder drags start pumping again?  Any melb ppls know?

It's on weekly afaik, i'll be running next Friday depending on weather.

Good job on the time trxnut, do some weight reduction and get a 15.5 ;)
« Last Edit: Sep 13, 2006, 01:40AM by bungs »

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« Reply #12 on: Sep 13, 2006, 11:20AM »
i've got a copy of the timeslip on my phone but i dont have my cable with me to get the pic off of it.. i'll update the fastest cars list though.

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« Reply #13 on: Sep 13, 2006, 01:20PM »
this is a great advertisement for antrx.com chips 8) schnell schnell!!
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« Reply #14 on: Sep 13, 2006, 01:42PM »
Cheers noss
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Re: THE FASTEST N/A TRX (ON THIS SITE THAT IS)
« Reply #15 on: Sep 13, 2006, 01:58PM »
hey Bungs

weght reduction?

what spare wheel, door trims back seat is that what your talking about? can i run down the strip with no doors? lol yeah right

i have to try some runs without my 17in chromies on it (ill put the 14s back on) and ill get rid of the big ass scoop i have aswell i swear that scoop is costing me a fair bit cause as ive said before my pb was 15.79sec and that was before the chip and afm, though i was getting perfect starts and good shifts, if i remember right i think i was doing 2.2sec 60 ft times to get the 15.7

so with that in mind im a little bit annoyed that i went fractionally slower with more power.
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« Reply #16 on: Sep 13, 2006, 03:15PM »
if you remove your front bumper there is a large cylinder shaped hunk of metal weighing about 4-5kg removing that would be good weight reduction
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« Reply #17 on: Sep 13, 2006, 05:58PM »
hey Bungs

weght reduction?

what spare wheel, door trims back seat is that what your talking about? can i run down the strip with no doors? lol yeah right

i have to try some runs without my 17in chromies on it (ill put the 14s back on) and ill get rid of the big ass scoop i have aswell i swear that scoop is costing me a fair bit cause as ive said before my pb was 15.79sec and that was before the chip and afm, though i was getting perfect starts and good shifts, if i remember right i think i was doing 2.2sec 60 ft times to get the 15.7

so with that in mind im a little bit annoyed that i went fractionally slower with more power.


For sure, get that unsprung weight down as much as you can, those 17's would be a time killer.

Get rid of spare tyre, run with 1/4 fuel, take a shit before you race, as xxxx said remove the anti-vibration metal behind the front bar, don't have to to take the front bar off to access it though - 2 bolts is all it is.

Also deflate the front tyres to about 20psi, get that 60ft time down ;)

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« Reply #18 on: Sep 13, 2006, 10:30PM »
This is awesome i cant believe all these things i can do to go quicker are all free!!!!!!!!!! :o Thanks heaps guys

in every way i can go quicker

tyres at 20psi... damn i had 34 i checked them on the way

 fuel i put $30 bucks in when i still had a quarter of a tank its been so long i wanted to make sure i had enough for all my runs and get home.

spare tyre i did that yipee  ;D
And that bar at the front is just two bolts and does absolutley nothing damn it again!
If i do all this and the cai properly what do you think a 15.3 even?
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« Reply #19 on: Sep 14, 2006, 12:10AM »
Maybe even a 15.27 with a bottle of pro strength octane booster in with the 1/4 tank :P
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Re: THE FASTEST N/A TRX (ON THIS SITE THAT IS)
« Reply #20 on: Sep 14, 2006, 12:43AM »
does that shit work? IMO might aswell just urniate in the fuel tank. same efect.
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« Reply #21 on: Sep 14, 2006, 01:05AM »
does that shit work? IMO might aswell just urniate in the fuel tank. same efect.

well it might raise the octane, but the engine doesn't get more power because of a higher octane fuel, unless it has knock sensoring and knows when to stop advancing timing. (which the ka doesn't)

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« Reply #22 on: Sep 14, 2006, 10:09PM »
weght reduction?

Take this advice for what it's worth, but one weekend, go to BOC Gas and get yourself about $50 worth of dry ice ($5 /kg if i remember correctly), pull out your interior to get the carpet up, and with the dry ice, working over one part of the car at a time, spread out the dry ice on the sound deadener, cover it with a towel and leave it for about 3-5min. Come back, and with a hammer tap the now brittle sound deadener, and proceed to lift it up in chunks off the floor.

I've only done the back half of my car, but there was about 5-6kg of the shit i pulled out; at a guess i'd say there is another 6-7kg in the front half to the firewall.

Pull your aircon out too.

Get a lighter battery and relocate it to the boot.

If you are running a std throttle body, get it enlarged and a new throttle plate machined up. (I may be able to offer this service shortly ;D)

If you don't want to fork out for a CDI ignition and coil, wire up the stock coil to ensure it gets full battery voltage, instructions are here:
http://www.ka-t.org/ignitionrewire.htm
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Finally after this essay, are you running stock compression? or higher?

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Re: THE FASTEST N/A TRX (ON THIS SITE THAT IS)
« Reply #23 on: Sep 15, 2006, 12:19AM »
wire up the stock coil to ensure it gets full battery voltage, instructions are here:
http://www.ka-t.org/ignitionrewire.htm

SSS, do you think this would be worthwhile for a car with basic mods? (CAI, exhaust & chip)
It's all pretty simple, and very cheap, so I guess I may as well do it!

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« Reply #24 on: Sep 15, 2006, 12:29AM »
what I want to know is wether the relay will be able to pulse fast enough with the revs of the engine. I suppose the pulse will be so quick that it will just stay on.
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« Reply #25 on: Sep 15, 2006, 02:46AM »
The negative side of the coil is the switching side. The positive side of the coil is always powered. Hence the relay would only switch when you turn the ignition on or off.
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« Reply #26 on: Sep 15, 2006, 09:32AM »
Correct. I had done this on my own U12 and it worked without fault as long as you wire it all correctly, ie use the correct gauge wire and solder your connections.

I got my HI-6 about 3 weeks after; to be honest i didn't notice a difference wiring the coil this way, as my ignition system was already in pretty good condition. It can't hurt to do though.

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« Reply #27 on: Sep 15, 2006, 10:05AM »
damn thats a good time, weight reduction and aerodynamics are a racers friend.  you should be able to pull a really nice time switching to lighter and smaller wheels and tires, so long as you can keep traction and keep those reaction times good.  hell if you go to the track alone take out your passenger seat too!  octane booster is gonna be a waste, you might make even less power because it ignites too late, unless you can adjust your timing.  sounds like your engine has a lot of potential you gonna keep modding or are you satisfied with what you got?  sounds like you got all the easy and important stuff out of the way. 
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« Reply #28 on: Sep 15, 2006, 10:19AM »
Where did you find your 12V source from? You cant use the battery because thats too much and very erratic (14.7v average and then higher when charging) and I dont like the idea of using a source that has additional load. Maybe make up your own 12v regulator?  ???

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« Reply #29 on: Sep 15, 2006, 10:39AM »
and keep those reaction times good. 

the ET is independent from the reaction time

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« Reply #30 on: Sep 15, 2006, 10:56AM »
Where did you find your 12V source from? You cant use the battery because thats too much and very erratic (14.7v average and then higher when charging) and I dont like the idea of using a source that has additional load. Maybe make up your own 12v regulator?  ???

The battery. The coil is receiving what is supposed to be battery voltage anyway.

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« Reply #31 on: Sep 15, 2006, 06:31PM »
holy shit where do i start so many question!!...............

I dont think i would take the body dedener from under the car, cause i think the road noise would shit me to tears and it would also start to rust sooner,to me its about 10 kgs worth of needed wait

OCTANE booster ppffftttt i know for a fact that it is useless, cause before i had the pintara trx i had a blue bird trx, i was at tafe when this same argument came up. At the time and had use of a dyno (well the teach did). the first few runs avg 105hp at the wheels, then we put in NULON pro strenght octane booster in 1/2 tank of fuel and avg 103hp and that was playing with the ignitiong timing.

i know this is one example only but to me it was proof enough.
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Can you please tell me what the f#ck is CDI ignition ive been working on cars since i was 16(24now) and never heard of it, my bad maybe :-[

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« Reply #32 on: Sep 15, 2006, 07:04PM »
I dont think i would take the body dedener from under the car, cause i think the road noise would shit me to tears and it would also start to rust sooner,to me its about 10 kgs worth of needed wait
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How much for the throttle body work, i have seen this done on one of the HIGH OCTANE dvds, it was a toyota MR2 and it only made if i remember right 6kw and it was fairly expensive, although ive never actually got a quote.

Can you please tell me what the f#ck is CDI ignition ive been working on cars since i was 16(24now) and never heard of it, my bad maybe :-[



I meant the sound deadener in the interior of the car, i haven't noticed any increased road noise from removing it.

From the head work i did about 3 years ago, i think my CR came out to about the same, if not around 9.2:1.

CDI: Capacitive Discharge Ignition, ie Crane HI-6, MSD 6A.

I'd probably say at a guess between $200-250 for the throttle enlargement, basically you'd send me your throttle body and i'd send it back with the work done, so all you'd have to do is re-install it on the plenum. I'll do my own throttle body first to work out how much labour is involved, and to make sure i get it to seal correctly as to avoid any idling problems.

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« Reply #33 on: Sep 16, 2006, 02:14PM »
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You will have to tell me what power increase it made, that would be good, cheers

and the body deadner i must of misinterpreted what you said, the inside is probably a good idea for reducing weight, i bet its a painstaking job but probably worth it for a tenth quicker time. 
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« Reply #34 on: Sep 16, 2006, 03:17PM »
To be honest it really wasn't difficult removing it after the dry ice had hardened it so it was that brittle that it just shatter after a blow from a hammer.

With the throttle body enlargement, the best i'll be able to do with verifying power increases is do back to back runs with my Gtech Pro RR.

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« Reply #35 on: Sep 19, 2006, 10:49AM »
i'll race ya.   :P
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« Reply #36 on: Sep 19, 2006, 02:16PM »
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« Reply #37 on: Sep 21, 2006, 09:32PM »
here is his time slip


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« Reply #38 on: Sep 22, 2006, 12:29AM »
i kid you not my trx can crack 110 in less than 15sec..

ah shit, wrong time...

haha, hmm i dunno, never been that fast


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Re: THE FASTEST N/A TRX (ON THIS SITE THAT IS)
« Reply #39 on: Sep 22, 2006, 02:19PM »
I did the stop watch timer 0-100 in my TRX and with a pretty good launch I got 7.49s

I wonder what I'd get over the 400m...
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Re: THE FASTEST N/A TRX (ON THIS SITE THAT IS)
« Reply #40 on: Sep 22, 2006, 04:00PM »
hey Bungs

weght reduction?

what spare wheel, door trims back seat is that what your talking about? can i run down the strip with no doors? lol yeah right

i have to try some runs without my 17in chromies on it (ill put the 14s back on) and ill get rid of the big ass scoop i have aswell i swear that scoop is costing me a fair bit cause as ive said before my pb was 15.79sec and that was before the chip and afm, though i was getting perfect starts and good shifts, if i remember right i think i was doing 2.2sec 60 ft times to get the 15.7

so with that in mind im a little bit annoyed that i went fractionally slower with more power.


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Re: THE FASTEST N/A TRX (ON THIS SITE THAT IS)
« Reply #41 on: Sep 26, 2006, 01:41AM »
I did the stop watch timer 0-100 in my TRX and with a pretty good launch I got 7.49s

I wonder what I'd get over the 400m...

Using consult and Nissan Data Scan you can get a lot more accurate time compared with a stopwatch ;)


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Re: THE FASTEST N/A TRX (ON THIS SITE THAT IS)
« Reply #42 on: Sep 26, 2006, 01:49PM »
OCTANE booster ppffftttt i know for a fact that it is useless, cause before i had the pintara trx i had a blue bird trx, i was at tafe when this same argument came up. At the time and had use of a dyno (well the teach did). the first few runs avg 105hp at the wheels, then we put in NULON pro strenght octane booster in 1/2 tank of fuel and avg 103hp and that was playing with the ignitiong timing.

i know this is one example only but to me it was proof enough.
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Re: THE FASTEST N/A TRX (ON THIS SITE THAT IS)
« Reply #43 on: Oct 1, 2006, 11:48AM »
Using consult and Nissan Data Scan you can get a lot more accurate time compared with a stopwatch ;)

how does one go about setting this up bungs?
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Re: THE FASTEST N/A TRX (ON THIS SITE THAT IS)
« Reply #44 on: Oct 1, 2006, 01:47PM »
Grab a consult cable from this bloke on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Nissan-Infiniti-USB-CONSULT-I-Diagnostic-Board-Cable_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33596QQihZ011QQitemZ320032335391QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

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Re: THE FASTEST N/A TRX (ON THIS SITE THAT IS)
« Reply #45 on: Oct 1, 2006, 01:59PM »
are you using this on yours? doesn't say that it does KA24E
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Re: THE FASTEST N/A TRX (ON THIS SITE THAT IS)
« Reply #46 on: Oct 1, 2006, 02:23PM »
Yep.

This is what I use for my diagnostics, but mostly for maptrace when I tune.

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Re: THE FASTEST N/A TRX (ON THIS SITE THAT IS)
« Reply #47 on: Oct 1, 2006, 04:00PM »
rathies,

if u get one, can u get one for me too and i'll send u the money ?

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Re: THE FASTEST N/A TRX (ON THIS SITE THAT IS)
« Reply #48 on: Oct 1, 2006, 10:43PM »
I'm interested on one too... depending on wether or not it'll work with my ca20, might go have a poke around and see if there's a plug on the ECU for it (that's where it plugs in right?)

Mayb we can get a mini-group buy and try to haggle down the price a bit? :D
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Re: THE FASTEST N/A TRX (ON THIS SITE THAT IS)
« Reply #49 on: Oct 2, 2006, 02:31AM »
No it won't work on the CA, they don't have a consult plug.
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