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R31 Pintara => performance and handling => Topic started by: Cle on Sep 6, 2003, 07:47PM

Title: Filter is in
Post by: Cle on Sep 6, 2003, 07:47PM

Im quite happy with it too :)  With the stiff accelerator pedal & old repco filter i had quite a lot of lag, but now it's "almost" as good as no filter at all :) I did have a few problems though  :-\ the filter is thicker then what i thought, far better quality, but i had to pull the cover out from the hindges (bout half way out) to get it to fit right & managed to thread one of the scrues in the process  :-X Not happy jan, but the car is running much better now.

I almost didn't buy the dam thing though, the price on it was "$145" at witch point i turned blue n protected my wallet  ;) (well i could have bought a pod n made a CAI for that) but the guy said my 120 was about right for em & took off my 5% discount so i got it at $114  ;D. I also ordered some more paint for the boot (dono if i mentioned it before but im redoing it since i was so tacky). My dash mat should be in same time as the paint so im all happy  8)

Title: Re:Filter is in
Post by: FLOGTARA on Sep 7, 2003, 02:07PM

All coming together now CLE!! Top stuff!

Title: Re:Filter is in
Post by: trxadelaide on Sep 8, 2003, 04:02PM

i have been wondering 4 ages how much difference a filter would make. So u can actually feel the increasd power yeah? How much u rekon?

Title: Re:Filter is in
Post by: Cle on Sep 8, 2003, 08:29PM

Power ? There said to give between 1-4 Kw (with pods twice as effective as panels) but i doubt that you will notice it much. The main thing is that you have a lot less lag or better response. You rev the engine high n it takes a lot less time to reach the level & it's very noticeable when you drop from mid-high revs, because the car is still trying to suck in the same amount of air it was before, but no longer has half the vacuum power to suck it in, with normal filters there tends to be a noticeable delay from when you take your foot of the excel to when the car reaches idle.

But ya i don't think you will notice the small power gain :) just the response.

Title: Re:Filter is in
Post by: RichTRX on Sep 9, 2003, 09:17PM

with a Simota pod my car makes noticably more power, has better fuel economy (something like 30+k's more to a tank) and it sounds cool!

Title: Re:Filter is in
Post by: Budgie on Sep 9, 2003, 09:58PM

Id have to agree with Rich, my simota definatley increased power low down (although most people seem to get more higher in the rev range).  Well worth the money, and the trip to melbourne to get!

Although my mum thinks my car is 'smoky' as a tiny bit of black smoke comes out the exhaust when I tramp it... ie- its running a little rich due to the pod.

Title: Re:Filter is in
Post by: trxadelaide on Sep 10, 2003, 04:38PM

yeah thats the problem with stickin opn pod filters huh? With all of the sensors on the intake that nissan gave us it makes things a little hard. Iv heard that you can severely decrease your fuel economy because the airflow meter senses that there is more airflow and goes into some sort of protection mode where it adds more fuel than neccessary.  I think it's 2 stop leaning out at high revs and damaging the engine..

Atleast thats how I understand it... Maybe im wrong???

Title: Re:Filter is in
Post by: SSS on Sep 15, 2003, 05:30PM

No, it compensates for the increased airflow of the new filter.
Every car that is either stock or lightly modded courtesy of an air filter/exhaust will run rich with std ECU's as the manufacturer sees this as a safety net against low octane fuel.

Title: Re:Filter is in
Post by: FLOGTARA on Sep 16, 2003, 06:40PM

Go the simota POD!! Great for torque, 1-2kw and wicked sound, jazzies up the engine bay too!

Title: Re:Filter is in
Post by: trxadelaide on Sep 23, 2003, 03:02PM

has anyone got a photo of what their Simota looks like installed in their car?? Im very interested!!!

Title: Re:Filter is in
Post by: Budgie on Sep 23, 2003, 03:47PM

Here you go mate-

(http://www.jc.com.au/~bird/misc/-antrx/simota.jpg)

Title: Re:Filter is in
Post by: trxadelaide on Sep 23, 2003, 03:52PM

very nice thanx 4 that dude!!!
thats a CA20 though aiint it?

anyone got it set up in a KA24??just want 2 see how it all fits in tha all!

thanx again Budginator!!

Title: Re:Filter is in
Post by: noss on Sep 23, 2003, 03:57PM

its exactly the same in the ka24e unless you've done it like i have.

Title: Re:Filter is in
Post by: FLOGTARA on Sep 24, 2003, 12:42AM

Buggy, mine is the same colour, my MAF adaptor is totally different from your  ???

Title: Re:Filter is in
Post by: Budgie on Sep 24, 2003, 03:40PM

Yeah? thats weird...

The bit that has BOSCH on it is differant?

Title: Re:Filter is in
Post by: SSS on Sep 24, 2003, 04:24PM

God damn....get some fucking degreaser in that engine bay!

Title: Re:Filter is in
Post by: Budgie on Sep 24, 2003, 07:10PM

You wanna clean it for me sssgtr?  ;D

Damn old country cars...

Title: Re:Filter is in
Post by: trxadelaide on Sep 24, 2003, 08:59PM

ill clean it 4 ya dude... only if I can have ya filter 4 payment!!

nahh... im gonna go and out by one of them i rekon!

Title: Re:Filter is in
Post by: trxadelaide on Sep 24, 2003, 09:39PM

ohh and by the way Budginator...r my eyes plaing tricks or have u still left the stock snorkel and part of the airbox in 2 scoop in more cold air??

if so... thats a pretty cool idea man! im definately gonnna go do that real soon!!! the way u done it there is hella better cos u dont get all of the hot air coming from the engine.... thats why lots of pods ya c round r actually loosing power!! good stuff bro! :)

Title: Re:Filter is in
Post by: Budgie on Sep 25, 2003, 12:49PM

Its only like that mate because I haven't had the time to make a proper heat sheild and cold air pipe... it just sits nicley in th airbox, so I left it that way  ;D  Lazy I guess!

Title: Re:Filter is in
Post by: weasel on Sep 28, 2003, 11:25PM

hey budge just be sure to get your heat sheild done before summer hits i had my pod setup like that last summer and my car always got heaps hot (it is all my fault as i didn't sheild it)

in the end i just went and got a K&N panel filter and put the stock air box back in and no probs now

Title: Re:Filter is in
Post by: Budgie on Sep 28, 2003, 11:54PM

thanks for that weasel, I will be doing that before summer hits.  ;D

I thought i'd need to do it soon.  Its been fine with the 12 degree victorian winters days though ;D

Title: Re:Filter is in
Post by: KNG P1N on Sep 29, 2003, 05:45PM

here is mine with a heat barrier


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Title: Re:Filter is in
Post by: noss on Sep 29, 2003, 05:58PM

and look at all that room to fit a turbo  ;D

Title: Re:Filter is in
Post by: Cle on Sep 29, 2003, 07:23PM

What kind of adaptor do you use again mat ? & as for you noss, can you really justify all that money on a ca20 ? with only around 82kw (with pod) how much extra could you possibly get ?

Title: Re:Filter is in
Post by: noss on Sep 29, 2003, 08:31PM

out of all honesty, i couldnt justify spending the money on the ca20e, as to do it properly would be more expensive than an rb20 turbo.

but if it were done right, these days, you should expect around a 50-60% increase in power with a properly matched turbo, good manifold, and properly tuned management. not to mention a cooler & exhaust.

Title: Re:Filter is in
Post by: SSS on Sep 29, 2003, 08:44PM

RB20....RB25....RB20....RB25

 :devil-smiley-023: :smiley10:

Title: Re:Filter is in
Post by: KNG P1N on Sep 30, 2003, 11:12AM

well, u know how the air flow meter has a rectangle end, i just bought one from autobarn 4 30 bucks and just filed it slightly, and it now fits perfectly. got any pics of yours?

Title: Re:Filter is in
Post by: Cle on Sep 30, 2003, 06:20PM

(http://www.tgu.org.uk/users/cleron/pic/Car10.jpg)

witch shows nothing lol but ya i know how the sensor has a triangled ass.. is sitting downward etc, ive seen pics of urs & i cleaned mine out a month ago. so you baught an adapto from autobarn ? or just the pod ? lol n for what car ?

Title: Re:Filter is in
Post by: KNG P1N on Oct 1, 2003, 09:31AM

i got the pod from noyzworkz, but the actual adapter i got from autobarn, just go in and ask where they keep pod adapters, there a whole different range. i just took my air flow meter in with me and matched it up, get a better pic, im intreeged by wat uve done

Title: Re:Filter is in
Post by: noss on Oct 1, 2003, 11:05AM

it should be the same one as the vl commodore

Title: Re:Filter is in
Post by: Budgie on Oct 1, 2003, 01:16PM

I got mine from autobarn, its a VL commonwhore adaptor.

Designed to fit the RB30E and the CA20E RWD configs (although it fits all CA20E's).  It has a square inlet area.

The inlet on my CA20E is perfectly round (not square like the VL's or R31's), so I had to cut away the excess metal to eliminate that extra resistance.

Title: Re:Filter is in
Post by: SSS on Oct 1, 2003, 02:35PM

When will this thread die????

Title: Re:Filter is in
Post by: noss on Oct 1, 2003, 03:18PM

when pod filters arent the be all and end all of automotive performance  :smiley1:

Title: Re:Filter is in
Post by: Cle on Oct 1, 2003, 06:06PM

Probably never..... the never ending thread....

Title: Re: Filter is in
Post by: Browny_r31 on Jan 24, 2004, 02:12PM

Im gonna continue this thread. The r31 has a VERY bad inlet piping from the filter. Both the ca20e and rb30e have very restrictive piping stock.

i have done the full kit on my r31 skyline pod and cai piping done professioanlly and on the dyno i recieved a very nice 8rwkws not to mention a smoother power curve over the entire rev range

Title: Re: Filter is in
Post by: noss on Jan 24, 2004, 03:59PM

Quote from: Browny_r31 on Jan 24, 2004, 02:12PM

Im gonna continue this thread. The r31 has a VERY bad inlet piping from the filter. Both the ca20e and rb30e have very restrictive piping stock.

i have done the full kit on my r31 skyline pod and cai piping done professioanlly and on the dyno i recieved a very nice 8rwkws not to mention a smoother power curve over the entire rev range

once again proof that when you do something right you will get fantastic results

Title: Re: Filter is in
Post by: Browny_r31 on Jan 30, 2004, 09:32PM

true but to do that something right u gotta get pros to do it. that costs a good $ unless u r like me and neva pay full price lol

Title: Re: Filter is in
Post by: Trx on Nov 5, 2005, 10:12PM

sorry to dig up old threds .. but pod filters are what this is all about ...

i puchased a maf adaptor today i am yet to drill the holes for it to fit onto my maf on my 1990 tr.x
i have got the pod and everything .. 1 thing im concerned i am eventually going to get cai on it but untill then how can i heat shield it.. with a low cost .. something simple

Title: Re: Filter is in
Post by: SSS on Nov 6, 2005, 09:59AM

you shouldn't need to drill holes in the adaptor if you bought the correct one in the first place.

Title: Re: Filter is in
Post by: Chadza on Nov 6, 2005, 02:47PM

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how can i heat shield it..

Get one of your cuz's to sit in the engine bay and put his hands around the pod on the engine side of the filter. If he blows into it while doing this it will be like forced induction and you will waste everything on the road.

Title: Re: Filter is in
Post by: Pingu on Nov 6, 2005, 03:59PM

Quote from: Trx on Nov  5, 2005, 10:12PM

sorry to dig up old threds .. but pod filters are what this is all about ...

i puchased a maf adaptor today i am yet to drill the holes for it to fit onto my maf on my 1990 tr.x
i have got the pod and everything .. 1 thing im concerned i am eventually going to get cai on it but untill then how can i heat shield it.. with a low cost .. something simple

My first partition consisted of a cardboard cutout cut to follow the enginebay bits to block engine bay radiation and hot air from being drawn into filter. It was covered in duct tape and insulation tape. After moving to metal it made no difference. Worked well. Simple and takes 5 minutes. You can laugh , or can benefit if you cannot be bothered full on CAI just yet.