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Re: U12 members spring,strut/suspension setups.
« Reply #30 on: Mar 29, 2012, 09:24PM »
http://www.dgrsuspension.com/NISSAN_Altima_U13_COILOVER_SUSPENSION_p/ni-37.htm

here is the link to dgr, while pretty new, i like think they would be better than the D2

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1) 30 way, Double Adjustable (Damper/ Rebound)
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3) Full Height Adjustable (full threaded casing)
4) Pillowballs with Koyo spherical top bearings (made in Japan bearings)
5) Cold Wound, Heat treated Coils
6) Customizable spring rates, at NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE (plan for roughly 14 days for delivery on custom orders)
7) Customized kits are valve matched to the springs
Cool DGR Suspension systems are NOT rebadged kits currently on the market. DGR makes their OWN coilovers.
9) Top spherical bearing is from KOYO in Japan
10) Seals are from NOK, Made in Japan
11) Fork oil is from IP in Italy
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Re: U12 members spring,strut/suspension setups.
« Reply #31 on: Mar 29, 2012, 09:26PM »
I emailed them regarding ordering just a front pair.
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Re: U12 members spring,strut/suspension setups.
« Reply #32 on: Mar 29, 2012, 09:33PM »
did you mention the u12, i am going to see if the can do the for the u12 as they are pretty close etc..
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Re: U12 members spring,strut/suspension setups.
« Reply #33 on: Mar 30, 2012, 09:44AM »
did you mention the u12, i am going to see if the can do the for the u12 as they are pretty close etc..

No I didn't and all the places I emailed who sell various brands Ksport, D2, Tien, Megan and DGR all said that you can only buy them in sets of four...

Anyone keen on buying some rear u13 coilovers ? Will fit u12 with minimal modification. I'm eager to know seeing as I have cash to place the order now and don't want to be left with 2 spare coilovers..

Edit: we could also do u13 front strut of any preference with cold wound coilover sleeve kits...
Seeing as the front struts fit the u12 and the rear u12 strut uses the same spring as the back of the u13. Will fit with no modification...
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Re: U12 members spring,strut/suspension setups.
« Reply #34 on: Mar 30, 2012, 10:38AM »
I have sent an e-mail to DGR. i will keep the thread updated..
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Re: U12 members spring,strut/suspension setups.
« Reply #35 on: Apr 2, 2012, 10:24AM »
Where does everyone get their kyb rear struts from ? All I can find is [language filter smackdown]got Monroe and pedders...
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Re: U12 members spring,strut/suspension setups.
« Reply #36 on: Apr 5, 2012, 11:18AM »
I have a reply from DGR, they are keen asked what maybe similar , i mentioned U13 fronts .. they said if we can get 10 sales they will develop them for u12 specific.. ;D bolt straight in yes...could be another group buy
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Re: U12 members spring,strut/suspension setups.
« Reply #37 on: Apr 14, 2012, 02:51AM »
I have a reply from DGR, they are keen asked what maybe similar , i mentioned U13 fronts .. they said if we can get 10 sales they will develop them for u12 specific.. ;D bolt straight in yes...could be another group buy
Are these for the U12s with the combined rear hub/strut or the macpherson style rear?

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Re: U12 members spring,strut/suspension setups.
« Reply #38 on: Apr 15, 2012, 08:19PM »
yep same as the bc, mc perversion style
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Re: U12 members spring,strut/suspension setups.
« Reply #39 on: Jul 13, 2012, 10:20AM »
Anything happened with this?

Such a shame, only 10 people need to put up a grand or so and it's so hard to get going. Hell, only 4 people could put up $150 for a strut brace...

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Re: U12 members spring,strut/suspension setups.
« Reply #40 on: Jul 14, 2012, 09:11PM »
Guys, my finances permitting, I will have a relatively U12 friendly bolt in adjustable coilover setup from Shocksworks. It will be mainly S13 based, but the top hats i will be getting specific to the U12.

There is modification required to the rear hubs, to convert the tube-to-spindle mount to an S13 bush mount.

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Re: U12 members spring,strut/suspension setups.
« Reply #41 on: Jul 29, 2012, 09:41AM »
^ that's a good idea.

On another note, I installed the coilover sleeve kit in the rear on the u12, even though they are meant for a u13 with a proper strut setup, installed on the [language filter smackdown]got shock/hub design, at it's lowest point the rear guards are just in line with your rear tyres, still low, practical and legal. So far in just installing the rear, I had noticed alot let body roll and a significant increase in handling.

Also to add to this I had picked up a set of non adjustible camber tops for the front, sick of the stock rubber ones splitting, they should add a bit more stiff. They will be installed when I can be fucked installing the front sleeve kit.

The sleeve kit was only $80 with $128 postage from the U.S and to me they look like a universal bolt on kit for alot of cars, I'm also 99% positive they will also fit the front u12 struts, as I run a set of u13 tokicos.
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Re: U12 members spring,strut/suspension setups.
« Reply #42 on: Dec 7, 2012, 03:40PM »
DIG.

Got a set of kido racing street/track spec coilovers or a u13 Altima, bolts straight into the u12.

Benefits:
Height adjustible to the point of dropping your car on its tires.
Damper adjustible to make hard or soft
Bottom bracket adjustible so you can correct control arm geometry
Camber adjustible.
Double locking spring perches
Pillow ball top mounts
7kg springs.

Fucking amazing.

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Re: U12 members spring,strut/suspension setups.
« Reply #43 on: Dec 9, 2012, 01:57PM »
Price landed?
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Re: U12 members spring,strut/suspension setups.
« Reply #44 on: Dec 9, 2012, 02:44PM »
$565, took 1.5 days from ship date.

Front and rear was $1080 landed from memory, but can't use rears in a u12 so I only got the front.
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Re: U12 members spring,strut/suspension setups.
« Reply #45 on: Dec 9, 2012, 05:14PM »
Ah yes, stupid different rear end setup in FWD U12's.

U13's are the same AWD and FWD which makes much more sense!
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Re: U12 members spring,strut/suspension setups.
« Reply #46 on: Dec 9, 2012, 05:29PM »



^ soo judging by this, ill be running stock camber -__-"

but of a bummer but still worth it.
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Re: U12 members spring,strut/suspension setups.
« Reply #47 on: Dec 9, 2012, 08:23PM »
Haven't got the left side on the right side have ya? ;)
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Re: U12 members spring,strut/suspension setups.
« Reply #48 on: Dec 9, 2012, 10:28PM »
don't the rears fit, but you have no camber adjustment? i am getting the dgr at some point ....maybe mid next year...i still send them emails about doing u12's, they sound keen. they just need to know there is a market.
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Re: U12 members spring,strut/suspension setups.
« Reply #49 on: Dec 9, 2012, 10:49PM »
I have the left on the left and right on the right UNLESS, because the bottom mounting bracket is adjustible and screws on and off that perhaps they were simply put on the wrong sides, I will swap them over tomorrow and check, hopefully it solves the issue ^_^
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Re: U12 members spring,strut/suspension setups.
« Reply #50 on: Dec 10, 2012, 06:50AM »
pedro, if my rear adaptors work out ok, we'll be able to use S14 front / rear coilovers.


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Re: U12 members spring,strut/suspension setups.
« Reply #51 on: Dec 10, 2012, 10:00AM »
Afte you redrill holes in the rear, I wasnt too keen on that.
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Re: U12 members spring,strut/suspension setups.
« Reply #52 on: Dec 10, 2012, 01:11PM »
FIXED IT, wa exactly as I thought, bottom mounting brackets were on the wrong sides. I moves them up alot more, made the car lower and gave it more strut travel, it's awesome.
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Re: U12 members spring,strut/suspension setups.
« Reply #53 on: Dec 10, 2012, 06:58PM »
It looked like something was simple wrong sided to me as well mate.

Easy fixed.
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Re: U12 members spring,strut/suspension setups.
« Reply #54 on: Dec 12, 2012, 12:37AM »
stight trhread hijack, while still on topic, im in no hurry sss so i will wait. the dgr guys think since its fwd u13 coils will work. i await your results sss

reply from DGR..
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Given that is it 2WD, our kit for the U13 will work with your setup. The 4wd is a different setup. Luckily these vehicles shared common suspension.


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Re: U12 members spring,strut/suspension setups.
« Reply #55 on: Dec 12, 2012, 09:38AM »
U13 rear coilovers do fit the rear bolt pattern but how will they join to the strut/hub combination ?
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Re: U12 members spring,strut/suspension setups.
« Reply #56 on: Jan 29, 2013, 12:20PM »
Forgot to mention,

The coilovers I got, the camber tops don't go dead straight up and down. But it's slightly off facing the front of the car, so if I was to adjust my camber backwards (strut top facing further in towards the bay) it will also very slightly adjust my caster (going to the front of the car)

Should not matter as a little more caster is a good thing, but providing I don't adjust my camber too far I should be fine ? ATM I have it set dead smack in the centre of the camber top.
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Re: U12 members spring,strut/suspension setups.
« Reply #57 on: Apr 19, 2013, 06:09PM »
U13 bluebird, j30 maxima front struts fit a u12.
J30 front and rear complete 5 stud hub assemblies fit u12
U13 bluebird front brakes and calipers fit u12
U13,u12,j30 strut braces fit u12 providing adj length and plenum clearance.
S14/s15 front swaybars fit the u12.
U12 bluebird rear strut braces fit a u12
All maxima bigger rear brakes and rotors if using j30 hubs.
Front Evo Brembo calipers with matching rotors fit a u12
There's more, will list later when I remember.
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Re: U12 members spring,strut/suspension setups.
« Reply #58 on: Apr 21, 2013, 01:11AM »
U13 bluebird, j30 maxima front struts fit a u12.
J30 front and rear complete 5 stud hub assemblies fit u12
U13 bluebird front brakes and calipers fit u12
U13,u12,j30 strut braces fit u12 providing adj length and plenum clearance.
S14/s15 front swaybars fit the u12.
U12 bluebird rear strut braces fit a u12
All maxima bigger rear brakes and rotors if using j30 hubs.
Front Evo Brembo calipers with matching rotors fit a u12
There's more, will list later when I remember.

Thanks Pure_Sincerity. Interesting info.

 I need to redo my springs. I haven't measured the coils but my car sits roughly 40mm from the ground at rear and 70mm at the front. I'm guessing I have 'superlow' style springs at rear and 'low' style springs at the front. I want the car lowered but the harsh ride with the 18 inch wheels aint that pleasant. A good spring and legal height but not extremely stiff. As I have nolathane bushes now in the front as well as back and soon to get bigger sway bars I have to compromise for a more liveable ride.

Is the S14 & S15 swaybars a direct fit or will they need modifying. I'm guessing modifying somewhat?

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Re: U12 members spring,strut/suspension setups.
« Reply #59 on: Apr 21, 2013, 01:27AM »
Thanks Pure_Sincerity. Interesting info.

 Is the S14 & S15 swaybars a direct fit or will they need modifying. I'm guessing modifying somewhat?

They would be a direct fit, will just need bushes to match. I found this out because I read on the the s chassis forum that people were using j30 front swaybars as a simple up grade because they are 30mm opposed to 26mm (I think) and j30 front swaybars bolt onto the u12 also which would mean s14/15s would fit ours wether stock or after market. Than I looked at my brothers stock s15 sway bar and its almost exactly the same as our u12, will bolt up no dramas.
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