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180 or r32?
« on: Jun 9, 2004, 02:48PM »
hey guys, got my loan approved yesterday for 12.5g  8) 8) 8) and now im in the market for either a r32 or a 180sx if i get a 180 it'll definately only be the 2.0lt and the only other requirement is that the car i get is manual as im sick to shit of auto...

what do you guys reckon of either car, not in terms of how they look but how they drive and compare.... also if you see any nice ones for sale please let me know.


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Re: 180 or r32?
« Reply #1 on: Jun 9, 2004, 03:04PM »
180 all the way :)

they go wikked with SR20DET.. so many things you can do with em...

I prefer the driveability of the 180 to the skyline...much lighter

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get the R32 and wack a NEO RB26 in ;)
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Re: 180 or r32?
« Reply #2 on: Jun 9, 2004, 03:10PM »
nar im not goin for big plans like total engine swaps or anything, im aiming for around 250kw@rw when im finished with it but thats a long way off... i want a 11 second street car... but not now... now im just after a reliable car thats got balls and i wont have to fork out big money...

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Re: 180 or r32?
« Reply #3 on: Jun 9, 2004, 03:20PM »
180 hands down

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Re: 180 or r32?
« Reply #4 on: Jun 9, 2004, 03:28PM »
yeah 180, unless you wanna buy the r32 and get the antrx rb20det chip when its release ;)

180's might be out of your price range in some cases though, as they still fetch a high price being a preferred drift car.

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Re: 180 or r32?
« Reply #5 on: Jun 9, 2004, 03:43PM »
ive seen 1991-2 180s for around the 10k mark... a mate of mine bought one for 9k stock apart from a kit and boost guage...

yeh i dunno.... it'll take me a while and im not rushing into it this time =)

oh and i wont be importing... but yeh i'm subscribed to that website too.... 4door skylines = pox in my opinion...
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Re: 180 or r32?
« Reply #6 on: Jun 9, 2004, 04:08PM »
go the 180sx look better and not to old, the r32 are over 10 years old now. make sure u get a nice colour!!
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Re: 180 or r32?
« Reply #7 on: Jun 9, 2004, 06:18PM »
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the r32 are over 10 years old now
so are most of the 180 sx's

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Re: 180 or r32?
« Reply #8 on: Jun 9, 2004, 06:27PM »
Seriously though, ignore what anyone says to you, its gonna be YOUR car, YOU have to be happy with it, you have to wake up to her every morning;)

My best advice to you is to test drive a heap of each of them.... get a real feel for each car, in good and shit condition, always helps...dont be picky, your there to benefit yourself in the long run!!

I also reckon you should drive a CA S13, so you can really notice the difference of an SR in stock form!!

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Re: 180 or r32?
« Reply #9 on: Jun 9, 2004, 07:23PM »
250kw is more than enough for an 11 second pass on slicks.

an r32 is probably out of your 12.5g price range but you can find a 180 for that. it would be pretty stock though
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Re: 180 or r32?
« Reply #10 on: Jun 9, 2004, 09:47PM »
i'm going to be different and suggest a U13 Bluebird attesa.
4wd and SR20DET can't go wrong.
Or, how bout a Cefiro? Most are RB20DET and are 4 door.

180's/R32's are too common IMHO, go for something a bit more unique if you're not in a hurry.

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Re: 180 or r32?
« Reply #11 on: Jun 9, 2004, 10:23PM »
Yeah I was going to say an ATTESA as well...

Chucky, you want a 180 or R32 because you want RWD don't you?  Not AWD?
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Re: 180 or r32?
« Reply #12 on: Jun 9, 2004, 11:44PM »
Im going to have to say R32, even though i have half a 180SX.

They are so awesome and not as common as 180's (in perth anyway) and can be made to look so sweet. My mate has one, no spoiler, black 17's, huge front mount.. looks so good. 180's are nice but very common.. its too hard to get a different look because of this. THey do look nice depending what you do to it though. Also depends what you want it for.. drift? straight line? Comfort and safety wise, R32 is much better mainly because its bigger, but in Perth, parts are much more harder to find for them then 180's.

But like someone said, its your car, and you choose what you think is best. Both the engines are proven performers so whatever you get will be good.

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Re: 180 or r32?
« Reply #13 on: Jun 10, 2004, 12:01AM »
cefiro ;D
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Re: 180 or r32?
« Reply #14 on: Jun 10, 2004, 07:22PM »
Bloke at my work had a cefiro. Ended up sideways in a pole on Blackburn road   :'(

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Re: 180 or r32?
« Reply #15 on: Jun 10, 2004, 09:46PM »
Bloke at my work had a cefiro. Ended up sideways in a pole on Blackburn road   :'(
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Re: 180 or r32?
« Reply #16 on: Jun 10, 2004, 10:16PM »
Yeah I was going to say an ATTESA as well...


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Re: 180 or r32?
« Reply #17 on: Jun 11, 2004, 12:05PM »
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Re: 180 or r32?
« Reply #18 on: Jun 11, 2004, 02:00PM »
heres a female's opinion...well first is the proformance side both the sr20det and the rb20 are good motors. but then what are you going to do to it???? the r32 and 180's are both common so either way your not going to stand out of the crowd unless you go skitz on the motor. but hey as people have said its your chioce but personally i think a 32 with a nice bib kit not over the top, a good spray job and a nice tone to it rips over the 180's anyday. not being biast to the sr20's cause im getting one for my datto. but the 32's look the best.
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Re: 180 or r32?
« Reply #19 on: Jun 11, 2004, 09:21PM »
personally i would go the 180 ....but thats because there are a million + a million r32's etc in sydney ......and the 180's look better .....although im saying the 180 because i hope that to be my next aswell ...


for 12.5k u should just beable to get a sr20 one .....have u looked on the nissansylvia forum ...there a cars for sale on there ......ca18 turbo one in perth for 8000 ...sounds quite good ...car looks good aswell

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Re: 180 or r32?
« Reply #20 on: Jun 12, 2004, 01:28AM »
personally i dont like the 180's in real life. when photographed they look good but thats cause they're photographed from their best angles. most of the 180's i have seen in real life have been pretty ordinary and quite ugly.

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Re: 180 or r32?
« Reply #21 on: Jun 12, 2004, 06:29AM »
firstly, thank you all for your opinions and suggestions.

i'm going to an import place tommorow to test out a few 180s and hopefully a couple of 32s...

the sr is the only 180 i'd consider, the car will remain mostly stockish until i repay the entire loan off and unless it already comes with a kit its highly unlikely i'd do it soon

i know they are both common cars and im not really trying to stand out from the crowd or have a 11 sec car overnight, my main reason for looking at these cars is cheap performance... 10-12k for a 180sx or 32 is not a lot to pay for a fairly quick car, and as for the price, i know of a few people buying 180sx's in reasonably good condition (no stacks, engine sound, minor scuffs, etc) between 9k even and 19k... i'm not in any rush and will look for a good buy...

thanks again for your input! keep adding if you got more to say and budgie, you'll have noted my absence as i've been busy working, organising shti for the business and keeping the mrs entertained..

i'll tell you what i think of the 180s tommorow  8)
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Re: 180 or r32?
« Reply #22 on: Jun 12, 2004, 03:19PM »
DaveTRX (who crashed his TRX) recently made the same decision between an r32 and a 180SX 2.0L - he was in an excellent position to judge because his parents owned manual versions of BOTH CARS. He finally chose the r32 Skyline GTS-t because:

a) it is based on a more expensive, more refined vehicle with better build quality and a nicer ride (not that ride really matters).
b) the Skyline is more comfortable hands down to drive.
c) The RB20DET is a smoother engine and puts out more power than the SR20DET (whether the R32 is actually quicker or not).

I remember him saying that what really won him over was the noise that the RB20DET makes over the SR20DET. Both of them have comparable performance (the 180SX would be better through bends I think) but the Skyline's engine noise was "awesome" compared to the SR20DET, which sounds much like any other 4 cylinder. He also likes the look of the Skyline, and the fact that 180's are practically everywhere made it an easier choice.

I guess it all depends on which you like better. They are both great cars and I wouldn't mind owning either of them, but I think I would personally choose the Skyline over the 180 as well. For the above reasons.
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Re: 180 or r32?
« Reply #23 on: Jun 12, 2004, 05:42PM »
Same with me with what Rich said....imo I think stock R32's look wayyy better than stock 180's.

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Re: 180 or r32?
« Reply #24 on: Jun 13, 2004, 12:11AM »
same, if I had to choose between the two I'd go for an R32.

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Re: 180 or r32?
« Reply #25 on: Jun 13, 2004, 02:09AM »
Yeah, Rich summed it up pretty well.

My mate's R32 is so damn comfortable and sounds awesome. Few mates have SR20s' and they really do sound like trucks sometimes if you've got minimal mods and an exhaust. Although, with a bit of work, i think the 180 can look much better.

Also if you wanted a car for drift, the winner would be a 180SX easily. They get sideways with minimal effort.

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Re: 180 or r32?
« Reply #26 on: Jun 16, 2004, 01:57PM »
180sx are getting way overdone....so to me I think the choice is R32...but that's also because we don't have any here and that makes me cry. :(
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Re: 180 or r32?
« Reply #27 on: Jun 16, 2004, 02:40PM »
haha yeah, you would see the '180sx' all the time with the 240sx's getting around over there wouldnt you?

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« Reply #28 on: Jun 16, 2004, 06:37PM »
haha yeah, you would see the '180sx' all the time with the 240sx's getting around over there wouldnt you?

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Re: 180 or r32?
« Reply #29 on: Jun 25, 2004, 09:04PM »
Well RichTRX saved me a bit of typing! :D

But i think you'll base your decision after driving both types of cars and then think about what you really want to use it for.

EG- my passion is through the hills. -180sx: too tail happy and not characteristically set up for the hills.
                                                 -R32: much better balance and stable through the bends.

Then i used characteristics to base my decision, not which is 'faster'. -R32: very comfertably interior, standard seats are very functional through the bends too, Beautiful unique sounding engine, timeless looks for its age( i didnt want a sleek looking car)
                                                                                              -180sx: Nice interior but too cramped for me, standard seats are shoking, engine probly out performs with better torque (in stock form anyway), sounds typical but looks very nice with the right applications.

Conclusion: In the end i have chosen the R32 because it's a whole package car to me and the 180sx isn't!
              : i tend to think that if you'll be paying it off and just want a satifying cheap performer, go with the 180sx! You'll get a better 180sx for your money than a R32 being a bit more expensive. ;)

Hope that helped a bit. :)

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