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Extractors !
« on: Aug 31, 2006, 10:26PM »
Hi guys,I m thinking to get an extractor for my 2.4 pinny. I have just seen today a 2.0 pinny with extracotrs in it at a wrecker. I m thinking that can i fit extractors from a 2.0 litre pinny into my 2.4 ?,Any help will be appreciated.
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Re: Extractors !
« Reply #1 on: Aug 31, 2006, 10:34PM »
Wont work. You need ka24 extractors.

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Re: Extractors !
« Reply #2 on: Aug 31, 2006, 10:45PM »
Ca and Ka heads are completely different.

I have those extractors on my ca tho! :P

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Re: Extractors !
« Reply #3 on: Aug 31, 2006, 11:12PM »
thanx guyz !,cheers.

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Re: Extractors !
« Reply #4 on: Sep 1, 2006, 04:51PM »
Ive heard that the commercial extractors available for the 2.4 arent all that good...

you might pick up some top end power, but realy who drives around at 5000rpm in a 16 year old car anyway....

and you will probably lose bottom end torque, which is the main thing these engines have a good reputation for, power down low is good!!!!

custom is the ultimate way to go.... long narrow 'runners', 4-2-1, with the lengths staggered to the order of the pistons firing... like 1423 or whatever they are
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Re: Extractors !
« Reply #5 on: Sep 1, 2006, 06:06PM »
yeah it is 1423
but ka24e's come with a good stock manifold anyways, the only real way to get much out of extractors in these engines is to get BALLANCED EXTRACTORS, normal extractors are pretty much equal to the stock, you get gain n loss from them unless (as i have already said) they're ballanced.
if any of you is wondering "wtf is ballanced extractors" they are specially made wit big f*ckin twists in the pipes so all the gasses flow through the exact same distance.
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Re: Extractors !
« Reply #6 on: Sep 1, 2006, 06:23PM »
1342 is the firing order

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« Reply #7 on: Sep 2, 2006, 07:54PM »
yeah thats it, my bad
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Re: Extractors !
« Reply #8 on: Sep 5, 2006, 11:50AM »
yeah it is 1423
but ka24e's come with a good stock manifold anyways, the only real way to get much out of extractors in these engines is to get BALLANCED EXTRACTORS, normal extractors are pretty much equal to the stock, you get gain n loss from them unless (as i have already said) they're ballanced.
if any of you is wondering "wtf is ballanced extractors" they are specially made wit big f*ckin twists in the pipes so all the gasses flow through the exact same distance.

Also known as "Tuned length" extractors.  The Genie types are interference type.
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Re: Extractors !
« Reply #9 on: Sep 5, 2006, 12:26PM »
What would Lukey extractors be? Tuned length?

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« Reply #10 on: Sep 8, 2006, 08:44PM »
HighTech also make extractors for the  ka24 ,  i know because  i have a set waiting to go on to replace my genies.
they are stainless steel , coated  2-4-1 extractors.
looks very nice an  hopefully will be better than the genies.
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Re: Extractors !
« Reply #11 on: Sep 9, 2006, 06:57PM »
hey jay jay
where can u get these hightech extractors??and what kind of $$...might finally replace my cracked manifold.

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« Reply #12 on: Sep 9, 2006, 08:00PM »
i got mine through autobarn in fern tree gully ,  in south east melbourne.
not sure on a price but ill find out for you , probably around $400 - $500.
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« Reply #13 on: Sep 10, 2006, 09:27PM »
http://www.bestmufflers.com/hitech_headers.htm

for info , ill get back to you on price
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Re: Extractors !
« Reply #14 on: Sep 10, 2006, 10:54PM »
I don't care what anyone else says, but the primarys are too small on off the shelf extractors; they whip up what they will be able to sell without doing any dyno testing.

Why have they made the primaries 38mm for the fwd KA24E, and 42mm for the navara with the same motor, going off their specs on that page? Even the secondaries and outlets are larger on the navara KA24E than the U12 KA24E.

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« Reply #15 on: Sep 10, 2006, 11:05PM »
you might say that but not everyone wants to waste the time or money to go out there a pay to get custom extractors made,
and  the navara ka24 is  totally different to the  trx one  anyway , the  air intake is totally different, the injection  system is different aswell. not only that but  theyre obviousl tuned to different  torque and power output specifications anyway. one being a ute and the other and family sedan.
specially all this when it makes bugger all difference anyway , if you wanted a dyno car you would hardly start with a trx.
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Re: Extractors !
« Reply #16 on: Sep 11, 2006, 10:13AM »
thanx...Ill check out autobarn up here in NSW

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Re: Extractors !
« Reply #17 on: Sep 11, 2006, 11:20AM »
FFS, the retard level is abnormally high in this thread.

Tell me this jayjay, since you know SO MUCH about the KA24 and header design.

Why fit LARGER primaries, secondaries and outlets to the SAME engine, but in 2 different chassis's?
And the layout of the engine HAS NOTHING TO DO with the answer.

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Re: Extractors !
« Reply #18 on: Sep 11, 2006, 12:09PM »
They also have the same size primary and secondarys for the ca20... with .4l less displacement. Me thinks its a "one-size-fits-all" kinda deal like sss is saying.

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Re: Extractors !
« Reply #19 on: Sep 11, 2006, 04:24PM »
I'm glad someone else agrees with what i'm saying.

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« Reply #20 on: Sep 11, 2006, 07:53PM »
nice calm way of talking for a moderator ,
all im offering is a cheaper option for extractors,  im not offering a custom made whizz bang  soprts tuned racing high temp extractor setup.
you just cant handle that someone doesnt want to waste the dollars on stuff that will make bugger all difference.
what would you do ? make out of steam pipe like your  turbo manifold, your a trip .
i know why i stoppped adding to these forums now
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« Reply #21 on: Sep 11, 2006, 07:54PM »
btw , i have  both  the navara and trx ka's sitting in my driveway so yes i do know the difference
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Re: Extractors !
« Reply #22 on: Sep 11, 2006, 08:18PM »
all im offering is a cheaper option for extractors,  im not offering a custom made whizz bang  soprts tuned racing high temp extractor setup.

jay you're not offering anything. you're telling someone to buy what they can already get. if someone wants to do what you conceive to be wasting money. its none of your business. let people do what they want.



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Re: Extractors !
« Reply #23 on: Sep 11, 2006, 08:44PM »
btw , i have  both  the navara and trx ka's sitting in my driveway so yes i do know the difference

So, what's the difference?

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« Reply #24 on: Sep 11, 2006, 09:32PM »
actually , i work at autobarn and i actually was going to offer a cheaper price  for him and othe members a the natrx forum,  considering im the assistant manager , but you can all go jump.
maybe one day when you not being a bunch of self indulged morons you will get some where.
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« Reply #25 on: Sep 11, 2006, 09:38PM »
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FFS, the retard level is abnormally high in this thread.

Tell me this jayjay, since you know SO MUCH


real good moderating skills to mate,  lets see if you can be abit more up yourself
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Re: Extractors !
« Reply #26 on: Sep 11, 2006, 09:43PM »
haha are you trying to get yourself banned?
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« Reply #27 on: Sep 11, 2006, 09:52PM »
no mate , but ive been on this forum for about 4 years , ive been on cruise and part of  group buys.
i just cant believe the shit  ive copped for telling some one about an option out there forr them.
i didnt start the abuse , a moderator  did
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« Reply #28 on: Sep 11, 2006, 10:30PM »
It was the cat mum! The cat started it!!

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Re: Extractors !
« Reply #29 on: Sep 11, 2006, 10:50PM »
all KA24E's are shit!!

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