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« on: Jan 16, 2008, 05:37PM »
hey guys check this out!! the police are getting sneakier and sneakier...... driving round in subies with p plates..... bastards!

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Re: undercover cars
« Reply #1 on: Jan 16, 2008, 06:09PM »
I was walking down the local mall the other night after the pub closed and walks past 2 blokes that were undercover cops.

50 meters down the mall I see a dual Triton with a ARB bullbar and Warn winch and 2 spotties and had a canopie on the back. I said to my mates "check this out an undercover Dogbox" the say fuck off it is. I said righto check out the box on the dash with the red and blue light.

Then the shut up, there getting sneakier.
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Re: undercover cars
« Reply #2 on: Jan 16, 2008, 07:57PM »
Surely its got to be illegal for cops on open licences to be displaying P plates, the average joe can get booked for it, why is it ok for them. as far as i know a cop car is only except from certain laws and only when its lights are on, im sure that isnt one of them.

I have no problem with undercover cops, i think they're clever. but i thought they only used new cars because they were easy to keep in compliance with the laws. older cars start to fall into disarray
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Re: undercover cars
« Reply #3 on: Jan 16, 2008, 08:59PM »
Cops can speed, thats illegal right?

Cops are exempt from road rules under patrol, their enforcing the law, funnily by breaking it, but that's how things have to be sometimes to work.
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Re: undercover cars
« Reply #4 on: Jan 16, 2008, 09:07PM »
Cops are exempt from road rules under patrol

Surely that can't be right!

I was under the impression that police could only "legally" speed and run red lights etc. when on a P1 (priority 1) call-out, with their lights and siren going full blaze.

Rest of the time they should be setting a good example. That's my understanding anyway.

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Re: undercover cars
« Reply #5 on: Jan 16, 2008, 09:16PM »
A Cop got charged for speeding and fired recently in my town whilst in a patrol car. He was dobbed in by a few civvies and then booked by an undercover car who followed him doing 150 along the highway. without sirens or warning lights.

Cop cars can only exceed the speed limit in two scenarios, one being a pursuit the other when immediate response is needed (usually only when there's a danger to civilians)
even then only certain cop cars can exceed the speed limit (paddy wagons can't and the new lotus thats driving around in Sydney aren't allowed)

In NSW you cannot be charged for displaying P plates when you are on your full license, although however you must obey the restrictions regarding speed. IE a car with P1 plates displayed cannot exceed 90kph.

I'm pretty sure Police cars are allowed to park in loading zones etc when attending a call. not when attending lunch. same goes for U turns in no u turns, but their sirens and warning lights must be on.
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Re: undercover cars
« Reply #6 on: Jan 16, 2008, 09:36PM »
I was always under the assumption they can speed (not 150 lol) alittle more than the limit to get ahead of the traffic for patrolling reasons. I mean whats the use of a HWP car if everyone knows his there? Even if it's unmarked, you can clearly tell when one is beside you.

I've seen them speed off in a 60 zone many many times, bleh. If you aren't doing anything wrong, who cares. I learnt my lesson through being a hero on the road rather than an enthusiast.
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Re: undercover cars
« Reply #7 on: Jan 16, 2008, 09:39PM »
they aren't allowed to speed, run red lights or anything without having their lights on.
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Re: undercover cars
« Reply #8 on: Jan 16, 2008, 09:54PM »
Bah, maybe I should make some recordings of them doing it and send it in to their IC HWP officer.
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Re: undercover cars
« Reply #9 on: Jan 16, 2008, 10:07PM »
Bah, maybe I should make some recordings of them doing it and send it in to their IC HWP officer.

you should, wouldn't be admissible as evidence unless the police officer in question agreed to it though.

We also had a cop killed when they were street racing once a couple years back.. 160 round a bend to overtake the other police car, lost control in the wet and slammed into a tree killing the passenger. The driver nearly got charged but got out on a technicality. The magistrate berated all officers involved as immediate response wasn't necessary.

So since then the other older officers have been cracking down on the other ones for being irresponsible etc... we also have a lot of the green cops straight out of the academy (and sometimes still in the academy) who will pull you over for anything they can find and be pricks about it too. I don't mind being pulled over for a random breath test if the officer is polite.
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Re: undercover cars
« Reply #10 on: Jan 16, 2008, 10:12PM »
I don't mind being pulled over for a random breath test if the officer is polite.

I agree entirely, there is nothing more annoying than being pulled over for a 'random breath test' after being selected out of a group of cars on the road because its not standard, I love having mod plates for everything though :P gives them the real shits when they cant get you for anything
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Re: undercover cars
« Reply #11 on: Jan 16, 2008, 10:21PM »
I like the funny occasional cop though, sometimes you can have some conversations about engine mods to them  :P

The cop that done me was interested in what the motor had, but I never told him!  :-X
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Re: undercover cars
« Reply #12 on: Jan 16, 2008, 11:48PM »
You get some good cops though like we were out in a padock driving around and a cop came. Before i started to do it the cop pulled me over and asked if i was doing circle work i said i was about to and he smiled and said theres plenty of places out of town to do that and let me go and said the same to my friend.
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Re: undercover cars
« Reply #13 on: Jan 16, 2008, 11:57PM »
ive always had a pretty insane eye for spotting undercovers (like its not obvoius enough) but yer basically i will always make sure there are no vy-vz-ve commodores with sun louvres and pop-ups on the dash behind me before even considering speeding. this makes that alot harder tho
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Re: undercover cars
« Reply #14 on: Jan 17, 2008, 03:35AM »
ive already taken to asume any car on the road is a cop anyway... keeps you outa trouble... we recently had a black WRX with "chromies" patrolling here apparently, and also an unmarked fpv gt as our highway patrol commonly known for trying to race people at the lights to book them for street racing (its since been written off in a pursuit however) im personally all for it for here, it is getting out of control. theres a certain percentage who are taking the whole boy racer thing a little to far.... take it to the track or at least well outa town...
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Re: undercover cars
« Reply #15 on: Jan 17, 2008, 06:40AM »
Here's a tip:

- only run people that you know personally for fun, in a nice, quiet out of the way spot.  :)

i think as you get older, racing on the street gets stupider.

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Re: undercover cars
« Reply #16 on: Jan 17, 2008, 09:50AM »
With our cars though, don't you think they all try race us? So if you can get a good look at who it is, well.....

I never got v8s trying to race me haha, only lebo's in their omg 92 corolla seca bro shitboxes lol
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Re: undercover cars
« Reply #17 on: Jan 17, 2008, 12:01PM »
There is nothing illegal about having a race up to the speed limit   :)
Seen that done before with a marked cop trying to sneak past in the left lane... the other driver launched and cop shit himself before speeding to slip in.

Different undercover cars won't happen in Vic for a while though, the commission is too bloody stupid and have plenty more to worry about.
Next there will be cops on Harly Davidsons with leather jackets and stuff to catch the biker gangs... oh and maybe semi trailers so they can catch the truckies tailgating.  ::)

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Re: undercover cars
« Reply #18 on: Jan 17, 2008, 12:53PM »
There are a few different types of D cars getting around Brissie/Gold Coast. I've seen a black 32, orange XR5 (focus/festy thing) and a black subaru liberty over the past few weeks.

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Re: undercover cars
« Reply #19 on: Jan 17, 2008, 01:21PM »
There's also a cop from Boondall police station no doubt driving around in a nice black BA XR6. He followed a lady into the servo I work at and then put on the lights, had a long chat to her, then he got her to get into his car, and she came in and told us she had to leave her car at the servo until the next day. Weird. There's also a dark blue VY Executive which cops from Albany Creek police station I believe love to use when they get the old radar gun out. Very sneaky, were pulled over into someones driveway, behind their fence, hiding behind the car with the gun, someone flashed us before we hit them so we crawled past at about 10km/h under the limit, they just glared at us when we drove past, so I gave them a wave and said hey mate.

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Re: undercover cars
« Reply #20 on: Jan 17, 2008, 01:51PM »
When I am driving around I always put my UHF on channel 40. Truck drivers can spot undercover cops from a mile away. The truckies always broadcast where the cops are. I tell them if I see the RTA inspectors.
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Re: undercover cars
« Reply #21 on: Jan 17, 2008, 04:05PM »
There's also a cop from Boondall police station no doubt driving around in a nice black BA XR6. He followed a lady into the servo I work at and then put on the lights, had a long chat to her, then he got her to get into his car, and she came in and told us she had to leave her car at the servo until the next day. Weird.

sounds more like the cop was picking up  :P
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Re: undercover cars
« Reply #22 on: Jan 17, 2008, 04:20PM »
Cops were behind someones fence?

If cops were in my front lawn, I'd make sure all the windows are open and blast the shit out of a porno  ;D
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Re: undercover cars
« Reply #23 on: Jan 17, 2008, 04:44PM »
I cant believe theyre allowed to do this shite.
Ive heard about them doing it for a while, but im yet to see one myself.
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Re: undercover cars
« Reply #24 on: Jan 17, 2008, 06:11PM »
Surely it's illegal for them to be in someone's driveway. It's not public property. I know if a cop was in my driveway i'd be having a go at them.

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Re: undercover cars
« Reply #25 on: Jan 17, 2008, 06:22PM »
There is nothing illegal about having a race up to the speed limit   :)


Yeah there is. Its called reckless driving, negligent driving etc etc. You can get done for it as well.

I dont know why anyone is complaining what the cops are driving/displaying on their cars... it shouldnt matter if you are obeying the laws. Ive seen magnas with p-plates and the frangipani stickers on the rear windows...


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Re: undercover cars
« Reply #26 on: Jan 17, 2008, 06:28PM »
because if a cop is breaking the law by displaying P plates or by driving a defective vehicle they arent allowed on the roads, but have no drama handing out tickets for the very same offences committed by members of the public.

I'm sure many people here have broken the law at some point no matter how minor it was. I myself have been caught speeding by an undercover cop once. Its annoying, but if you do the crime, do the time.
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« Reply #27 on: Jan 17, 2008, 07:21PM »
Ed, at traffic school I remember the HWP module, the cop said they are exempt from road rules, thats why they can do all that "illegal" stuff to us but it's not for them..

Is that familiar to you?
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Re: undercover cars
« Reply #28 on: Jan 17, 2008, 09:38PM »
Surely it's illegal for them to be in someone's driveway. It's not public property. I know if a cop was in my driveway i'd be having a go at them.

Probably is, I don't think anyone was home as there were no cars on the driveway.

The cops driving the dark blue VY Exec around Albany Creek, Bridgeman Downs, Carseldine, Aspley, Bracken Ridge, etc are tools, pulled over a member of LS1 claiming they had him doing x speed, quite a lot over the limit. He was using a GPS with a speed logger but they didn't care, he escalated it to court then not long before the hearing date, they cancelled the hearing and withdrew the fine.

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Re: undercover cars
« Reply #29 on: Jan 17, 2008, 09:40PM »
Ed, at traffic school I remember the HWP module, the cop said they are exempt from road rules, thats why they can do all that "illegal" stuff to us but it's not for them..

Is that familiar to you?

Yep.

The only thing they cant do is entice reckless behaviour (tailgating, berating, etc)

There is almost nothing they cant do. The lights and whatnot are only there to serve as a warning to other road users.

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